The Crotch Salute

[SP01715]

This sounds like the whakos claiming the moon landing was faked. Analyzing shadows? Funny stuff...

[turnpike boy]

Yeah, this is a photo that just screamed to be faked.

Fred, don't try to confuse them with the facts.....their decisions are already made, similar to that they accuse you of.

There are two (2) rows of haybales, and the flag is erected between them, effectively hiding the support structure; looking at the corners one can observe some droop and/or overlap, indicating framework behind. Notice there is no wrinkling or excessive folding of the flag? - maybe was put up on a reasonably secure framework.

As to angles, the picture was clearly taken looking upward at the stage. If the joints in the planking on the stage are 4' - typical for a sheet of plywood or other flooring - the woman on the far right is anywhere between 8' and 10' away from the President - and with a small wide angle lens, as suggested above, would also heighten the visual effect of foreshortening and of altering, to some degree, the percieved angles of the shadows (holy crow...). Finally, the two extreme chairs (that's right and left) do not visually appear much different in size, nor do the haybales......meaning, maybe the woman on the right really is just that short. Imagine that.

And, of course, all of this TOTALLY ignores the first photo, clearly the more offensive of the two. But then, that must have been photoshopped, too.

Short (pun intended) of having actually been there, all of this is BS and speculation. I would put a smiley here too, but just cannot seem to bring myself to that.

[392cobra]

Originally Posted by SP01715

This sounds like the whakos claiming the moon landing was faked. Analyzing shadows? Funny stuff...

It is pretty funny.

Buzz likes to use diversions,just like Obama.

[Buzz]

Turnpike Boy - If you weren't so disoriented by the echos you get from shouting inside your own colon (I imagine there's not much oxygen in there either), you'd note that I said the scenario was quite real - as seen on the video, Obama did indeed fail to place his hand over his heart during the singing of the anthem.

The photo looks to have been subject to creative editing but it was likely a simple editorial job - no big conspiracy involved. I was dealing strictly with the structure of the image. If you guys are desparately seeking proof that Obama is a Muslim terrorist communist symathizer - there it is - you have it. No one is disputing that he failed to salute the anthem.

PS - Fred - save the bull$hit. We both know you will read this post.

Here, have a smiley on me

[Dan40]

Odd isn't it that when wishes to debunk some conservative they turn to one of the urban legends sites for their "proof." Yet when they do not like the results of any of those sites, they question the sites accuracy.
Consistent with the liberal belief that one can have it both ways. However, reality says they are just twice wrong.

[Buzz]

If you can wean yourself off your own bilge fumes for a minute - read again that I accepted the conclusions of the site the OP referenced as well as Snopes that there was indeed no salute. I have stated repeatedly that the fact the photo appears to have been edited is a separate issue unto itself and has no bearing on the established fact that the incident actually occurred.

So here - Pop your pacifier back in your mouth - Obama did not salute! You are free to conclude from this that he is a foreign terrorist if that makes you happy.

Feel better now?

[Silverback51]

Originally Posted by Buzz

If you can wean yourself off your own bilge fumes for a minute - read again that I accepted the conclusions of the site the OP referenced as well as Snopes that there was indeed no salute. I have stated repeatedly that the fact the photo appears to have been edited is a separate issue unto itself and has no bearing on the established fact that the incident actually occurred.

So here - Pop your pacifier back in your mouth - Obama did not salute! You are free to conclude from this that he is a foreign terrorist if that makes you happy.

Feel better now?

Personally I feel that to this point he has not been a good leader, or very presidential. However he is our President, and I hope and pray he grows into the job. I would not like to see another 3+ years like the past 10 months.

[Buzz]

Originally Posted by Silverback51

Personally I feel that to this point he has not been a good leader, or very presidential. However he is our President, and I hope and pray he grows into the job. I would not like to see another 3+ years like the past 10 months.

I wonder how Obama himself feels he is doing as Commander in Chief. He has fumbled and blundered here and there, that's for sure, and I wonder if he ever feels like he bit off more than he can chew. Quite likely, as with most politicians, the ego is so driven by the need to live up to a cultivated public image that it becomes an alter ego and he propably couldn't answer that question honestly - not even to himself.

[turnpike boy]

Originally Posted by Buzz

Turnpike Boy - If you weren't so disoriented by the echos you get from shouting inside your own colon (I imagine there's not much oxygen in there either), you'd note that I said the scenario was quite real - as seen on the video, Obama did indeed fail to place his hand over his heart during the singing of the anthem.

Which was the fundamental basis of the original posting...all the unending spew you post about virtues and hypocracy and who's more of a stand-up guy are thoroughly undermined by your incessant whining.

And your juvenile attempts at insult are laughable and expected from someone who cannot stand to accept his failures whole-cloth - repeated diversions and efforts to redirect from the intent of the original posting are transparent and pathetic.

Get a life. I'm sure there must be a few down there on that island. Pick one and try to live up to your inflated opinion of yourself. Here's your smiley

[Buzz]

For a minute there, I thought you said "incessant wining". Though I am not a very heavy drinker, that would have been more accurate as I do enjoy good wines - champagne in particular. As for whining - not my thing really, brother, though I do feel compelled to complain that the puffing and wheezing coming out of your orifices is mildy irritating.

Life in the tropics? It's certainly not for everyone, and for most that do enjoy it, complete enjoyment is usually contingent on being able to get away once in a while to the continents in order to shop for Cobra parts, get all worked up with self importance and then return home with a refreshed perspective on relaxation and the simpler pleasures in life. I'm not sure what you refer to when you say there must be a few down here - a few what? If it's as good as you make it sound, you bet your boots I'll be gittin' me some of whatever it is! I'm starting to feel all inflated just thinking about it.

Come on down here yourself one day and check the place out. It really is quite beautiful - sort of the stereotypical tropical island look - lots of greenery with the mountains and beaches and all that. I'm actually a really nice guy and I'd be happy to show you around.

[Dan40]

Its very obvious. We have a president that displayed his incompetency from the start. It IS NOT an easy job! Instead of growing into the job, he has degenerated into rank incompetence. And followed that up with a constant stream of lies. ABOUT everything. What has he lied about? Pick a statement he has made. Or a promise, or an assurance. All lies. And the corruption is TOTAL and COMPLETE. Other countries must roll on the floor laughing when we tell Afghanistan to clean up their corruption before we can support them
I said early on that he might become the worst pres since Carter. Now I'd love to have Dummy Jimmy back, even with Billy and his beer.

[Wayne Maybury]

Who's on first?