The Crotch Salute

[Silverback51]

Originally Posted by Buzz

If you can wean yourself off your own bilge fumes for a minute - read again that I accepted the conclusions of the site the OP referenced as well as Snopes that there was indeed no salute. I have stated repeatedly that the fact the photo appears to have been edited is a separate issue unto itself and has no bearing on the established fact that the incident actually occurred.

So here - Pop your pacifier back in your mouth - Obama did not salute! You are free to conclude from this that he is a foreign terrorist if that makes you happy.

Feel better now?

Personally I feel that to this point he has not been a good leader, or very presidential. However he is our President, and I hope and pray he grows into the job. I would not like to see another 3+ years like the past 10 months.

[Apex Rider]

Originally Posted by Buzz

Therefore, I repeat my apology, stand down and cheerfully accept my due chastisement from all who righteously choose to throw a few well deserved punches.

Wow,what happened with that ?

The old Liberal bait & switch ?

You don't seem to be a very nice person with all your personal insults and name calling nor a happy foreigner.

[Apex Rider]

Maybe you shouldn't drink and ... never mind.

I off the more pleansant doings.

[Buzz]

Actually, I was born right here in the Caribbean so I'm no foreigner. And I am happy as hell. You guys get all worked up over this stuff - to me it's just banter.

I initially apologized for jumping the gun and ASSuming the photoshopped image was an indication the incident was just another sensationalist fabrication. I was wrong about that and I still accept responsibility for my mistake. No one chose to take me to task for that, but they would have been welcome.

The discussion about the image itself continued after it was established that OBAMA DID NOT SALUTE. People are continuing to insist that I am attempting to debunk the story when I have repeatedly stated that I am not.

I find it funny as heck that people like you are so keen on ranting about conservatives vs. liberals that you simply cannot read and understand anything that gets in the way of your quarrel. Hence you default to things that bring you comfort like xenophobia, political tribalism and insularity.

No one seems like a nice person when you are in the middle of a disagreement with them - what you need to realise is that this is an anonymous forum and you and I no more know each other than any two strangers living thousands of miles apart.

[Buzz]

Originally Posted by Apex Rider

Maybe you shouldn't drink and ... never mind.

I off the more pleansant doings.

I off the more pleansant doings???? WTF does that mean?

You started to say something about drinking...

[Buzz]

Originally Posted by Silverback51

Personally I feel that to this point he has not been a good leader, or very presidential. However he is our President, and I hope and pray he grows into the job. I would not like to see another 3+ years like the past 10 months.

I wonder how Obama himself feels he is doing as Commander in Chief. He has fumbled and blundered here and there, that's for sure, and I wonder if he ever feels like he bit off more than he can chew. Quite likely, as with most politicians, the ego is so driven by the need to live up to a cultivated public image that it becomes an alter ego and he propably couldn't answer that question honestly - not even to himself.

[Bill Bess]

Hey lighten up there boys and girls! Obama is just an over rated mouth piece for the left minded with no real experience and demonstrates no positive value to America. He is an empty suit and proud of it......he speaks well and like to travel, maybe he could go to the north pole and stay there.
He can't even salute our flag, what a little prick he is..vote him out ASAP.

[Ron61]

Hey Buzz,

This thread needs one of your cartoons. Maybe something like Fred bowing to Obama and Pelosi. Then they could analyze your meaning for another few pages.

Ron

[Buzz]

Lol! I would, Ron - but there's enough comedy in here already. You see, good ol' honest American values alien fred and "Apex Rider" are one and the same. He kept outing his own dumba$$ by replying to my posts despite his self righteous posturing about placing me on his ignore list!

Talk about "liberal bait and switch" - this guy who is the biggest critic of corruption and dishonesty creates and posts under a false alter-ego so he can pretend to take the high road on one hand and still play in the mud with the other. In his last Apex Rider post, note the sudden ending and garbled type - he saw my hint a couple of posts above (Come on Apex Rider - Spit it out) that I was onto his scam and likely had an emphysema attack - high-tailed it outta there so fast he couldn't even type properly!

It all just goes to show over and over again - the biggest critics of others are often so damn dirty themselves that they try to point out in others what sickens them everytime they see themselves in the mirror.

Most of today's problems are not exclusively the fault of Obama and George Bush or any other flippin politician - they are rooted in the self righteous, dishonest hypocrisy of the sort you see in blowhards like Fred aka Apex Rider.

392 cobra
It is pretty funny.

Buzz likes to use diversions,just like Obama.

LMAO!! Look who's friggin' talking buddy! Everything this guy likes to accuse liberals and foreigners and other designated lowlifes of - he's it!

It's not so much that I give a rats a$$ about the Obama/liberal/conservative crap that he spouts ad nauseum - it's the lying hypocrisy that picks my butt. This is the sort of credibility he brings to the forum everytime he flaps his gums.

C'mon Freddy or Alien or Ape-Ex or biker dude or whatever TF you're pretending to be today - say it ain't so!

EDIT: His default strategy will be to lie low and not respond - after all how can he see this post if Buzz is on his ignore list, right?

If I care to I can easily post up proof of the double dealing connivery - It's not that important to me - but I do find it funny as hell all the same.

[bomelia]

C'mon Buzz! I cannot remember you getting so worked up over political $hit. Ernie rightly owns the mantel of Obama appologist.

I still want to know what you meant about the planter. I think I cleared up the issue with regards to the flag support and grass (hay bales). This is more fun.

Mike

[Buzz]

I'm not worked up at all, Mikey! The whole thing is actually quite hilarious. I wonder if 392Apex Rider will put me on ignore now as well.

Re: the planter - Without going back and double checking - if you look at the video, there is a flower planter directly in front of where Billary is standing. Following the floor seam directly ahead of her in the still image, the front of the stage is partially cut off, but you should still be able to see at least a part of that planter if she was in the same position as she was in the vid. I think you can also get a feel for the size of the lady at the end - in the video, she ain't that much smaller than the Hildebeast to appear so tiny in comparison when she's only standing a few feet away from her.

I don't have much stake in this either btw - its the topic of photo editing itself that holds my interest.

[turnpike boy]

Originally Posted by Buzz

Turnpike Boy - If you weren't so disoriented by the echos you get from shouting inside your own colon (I imagine there's not much oxygen in there either), you'd note that I said the scenario was quite real - as seen on the video, Obama did indeed fail to place his hand over his heart during the singing of the anthem.

Which was the fundamental basis of the original posting...all the unending spew you post about virtues and hypocracy and who's more of a stand-up guy are thoroughly undermined by your incessant whining.

And your juvenile attempts at insult are laughable and expected from someone who cannot stand to accept his failures whole-cloth - repeated diversions and efforts to redirect from the intent of the original posting are transparent and pathetic.

Get a life. I'm sure there must be a few down there on that island. Pick one and try to live up to your inflated opinion of yourself. Here's your smiley

[Buzz]

For a minute there, I thought you said "incessant wining". Though I am not a very heavy drinker, that would have been more accurate as I do enjoy good wines - champagne in particular. As for whining - not my thing really, brother, though I do feel compelled to complain that the puffing and wheezing coming out of your orifices is mildy irritating.

Life in the tropics? It's certainly not for everyone, and for most that do enjoy it, complete enjoyment is usually contingent on being able to get away once in a while to the continents in order to shop for Cobra parts, get all worked up with self importance and then return home with a refreshed perspective on relaxation and the simpler pleasures in life. I'm not sure what you refer to when you say there must be a few down here - a few what? If it's as good as you make it sound, you bet your boots I'll be gittin' me some of whatever it is! I'm starting to feel all inflated just thinking about it.

Come on down here yourself one day and check the place out. It really is quite beautiful - sort of the stereotypical tropical island look - lots of greenery with the mountains and beaches and all that. I'm actually a really nice guy and I'd be happy to show you around.

[Dan40]

Its very obvious. We have a president that displayed his incompetency from the start. It IS NOT an easy job! Instead of growing into the job, he has degenerated into rank incompetence. And followed that up with a constant stream of lies. ABOUT everything. What has he lied about? Pick a statement he has made. Or a promise, or an assurance. All lies. And the corruption is TOTAL and COMPLETE. Other countries must roll on the floor laughing when we tell Afghanistan to clean up their corruption before we can support them
I said early on that he might become the worst pres since Carter. Now I'd love to have Dummy Jimmy back, even with Billy and his beer.

[Wayne Maybury]

Who's on first?

[Buzz]

Did anybody here ever actually taste Billy Beer? Was it any good? Maybe Barack's brother should brew up some Obama Ale - that might go over nicely.

[392cobra]

Maybe if oblunder had looked at some old video of when Nixon met Mao he wouldn't of ended up with his nose around the guys zipper,unless that was what he intended anyway.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmi...ng_to_Mao.html

[Bobcat]

Buzz .... I tried some Billy Beer some years ago .... let`s just say it should have stayed in the horse it came from .

Bob

[Ron61]

Fred,

Wasn't it Nixon that made what he thought was the peace sign when he was stepping out of the plane in China and later found out that over there it was the same as giving someone the finger here?

Ron