Global Warming (caused by man) is dead

[bomelia]

It's a hoax, we many of us suspected it. It's time to stop being timid about it and admit it out loud. It's a HOAX.

Yes, we have been going through a period of noticable change. But the Hadley CRU emails prove the AGW part of it is a hoax. Have you read ANY of them? It is totally embarassing for them.

http://junkscience.com/FOIA/

You can download them here.

Mike

[Wes Tausend]

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It's a hoax, we many of us suspected it...

Unless the "GW Hoax" warnings turn out to be another hoax. Junkscience.com is run by none-other than thee Steven_J._Milloy.

Mike, here is a brief read on Steve's main activities.

Excerpts from the site:
Steven J. Milloy is a columnist for Fox News and a paid advocate for Phillip Morris, ExxonMobil and other corporations.

Milloy has spent much of his life as a lobbyist for major corporations and trade organizations which have poisioning or polluting problems.

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Milloy was once part of the Tobacco lobby in trying to sell the use of tobacco as safe. Now it's considered so bad, the safety nazi's overdo it regarding slight "second hand smoke" as deadly.

I believe ExxonMobil has quit funding the anti-GW campaigns, at least openly, now that they've fallen in general public disfavor.

Wes

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[bomelia]

Well Wes, with the Internet, nothing is sacred and we can spend all day debunking each other's "theories" by killing the messanger. The site I provided was simply a site to download the infamous hacked emails & source code. No commentary was on my part intentionally involved.

When we get seriously involved in an issue and finally decide to take sides, we invest a lot. Our emotional reputations are on the line. I accept that. In this case, I decided long ago I was not going to take sides... hell, it has not snowed here since my 10 year old son was 1 year old! It is patently clear to me that we are in the midst of some kind of climate shift.

But crap, this planet has been going through climate shifts for eons on ALL kinds of time scales. Its only been recently that we have been able as humans to take note and then theorize cause.

It is pure folly for us to assume on this particular cycle (out of thousands) that WE are the cause of this one. We are not. Yes, change is occuring. Liberals have siezed upon this to create new methods of control and taxation.

The emails (if you have read them) will convince you that so called "climate scientists" have engaged in a plan of deciet that is shamefull & political on many levels.

Sorry, but this whole thing is a hoax.

Mike

[Wayne Maybury]

Mike

I have heard that some sincere climate scientists are very upset with these emails as so much negative reaction has been focused on this area recently. As one scientist said, these few emails represent a very small fraction of work that has been done. I haven't read the emails and I really do not know if man is responsible for the changing climate. Heck, I don't even know if there really is a significant change in progress but as you have said, the climate on earth has been changing for eons.

I do believe that the human race is doomed if we cannot control the world population. In my humble opinion, there are already far too many people on this planet for long term survival. It is the only planet we have and we are screwing it up as we allow the population to continue to increase.

Wayne