Interpol now has immunity...

[Scott S]

President Obama with a stoke of a pen has given away one of our most important rights, Interpol now has basically free reign in our country to do what ever it sees fit with full immunity.

http://threatswatch.org/analysis/200...r-sovereignty/

Why would Obama do this to us?

[computerworks]

For the Chicken Little's:

A little (actually very little) searching found the Exec Order was the result of a recommendation by the State Department under The Bush administration to bring Interpol under the same rules as other world orgs, like the Intl Red Cross.

It was in the To-Do box from the last administration. No news there.

Unless you wade thru the infinite blog posts on this shocking revelation by the constipated extremists.

[Ron61]

Unless you wade thru the infinite blog posts on this shocking revelation by the constipated extremists.

Now you couldn't possibly be referring to Ernie as he doesn't Blog so far as we know.

Ron

[computerworks]

Originally Posted by Ron61

Now you couldn't possibly be referring to Ernie as he doesn't Blog so far as we know.

Ron

Correct. EX narrowly misses that classification.

[Scott S]

Originally Posted by computerworks

For the Chicken Little's:

A little (actually very little) searching found the Exec Order was the result of a recommendation by the State Department under The Bush administration to bring Interpol under the same rules as other world orgs, like the Intl Red Cross.

It was in the To-Do box from the last administration. No news there.

Unless you wade thru the infinite blog posts on this shocking revelation by the constipated extremists.

So I guess its just okay,....? BTW I don't think the Red Cross has any police authority.

[computerworks]

Originally Posted by Scott S

BTW I don't think the Red Cross has any police authority.

Neither does Interpol here...

If a foreign country issues an arrest warrant for a person inside the United States, it is up to the United States government, based on its own laws, to decide whether to apprehend the suspect.

“We don’t send officers into the field to arrest people; we don’t have agents that go investigate crimes,” said Rachel Billington, an Interpol spokeswoman. “This is always done by the national police in the member country under their national laws.”

[Scott S]

Originally Posted by computerworks

Neither does Interpol here...

With complete immunity how would you know? What is the enforcement mechanism, blind trust of a foreign agency?

Some of the left went off the deep-end over NSA wiretaps, why is this any different?

Scott S

[Scott S]

More from the Washington Examiner

"There are multiple reasons why this Obama decision is so deeply disturbing. First, the Obama order reverses a 1983 Reagan administration decision in order to grant Interpol, the International Criminal Police Organization, two key privileges. First, Obama has granted Interpol the ability to operate within the territorial limits of the United States without being subject to the same constitutional restraints that apply to all domestic law enforcement agencies such as the FBI. Second, Obama has exempted Interpol's domestic facilities -- including its office within the U.S. Department of Justice -- from search and seizure by U.S. authorities and from disclosure of archived documents in response to Freedom of Information Act requests filed by U.S. citizens. Think very carefully about what you just read: Obama has given an international law enforcement organization that is accountable to no other national authority the ability to operate as it pleases within our own borders, and he has freed it from the most basic measure of official transparency and accountability, the FOIA."

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/op...-80291137.html

Who would you rather wiretap you, Interpol or Bush?

Scott S

[Excaliber]

I guess I "blog", it's just not all in one place, but scattered around the Lounge.

[Dan40]

Arrests made by Interpol here are subject to our laws same as us arresting someone in any foreign country are subject to that country's laws.

[Scott S]

Originally Posted by Dan40

Arrests made by Interpol here are subject to our laws same as us arresting someone in any foreign country are subject to that country's laws.

Not any more, how would you like to be arrested by a policeman that has complete immunity from all prosecution and the ability to hide all evidence perhaps even you?

[computerworks]

Scott...I'm not trying to challenge you, because this appears to be an issue you have some sort of passion for...
...but, you are missing the crux.

Interpol doesn't have "police" that "make arrests" in foreign countries.
It says they work with local law enforcement to accomplish that.

[Scott S]

Originally Posted by computerworks

Scott...I'm not trying to challenge you, because this appears to be an issue you have some sort of passion for...
...but, you are missing the crux.

Interpol doesn't have "police" that "make arrests" in foreign countries.
It says they work with local law enforcement to accomplish that.

So if you were falsely arrested based entirely on information garnered from Interpol, who would you sue?

The arresting agency will pass the buck off, Interpol will claim no knowledge, you will have no legal means of discovery...

Scott S

[tcrist]

Thats ok CW.
Our local law enforcement is corrupt anyway so this just makes them twice as corrupt. I dont trust any of them as far as I could throw them.

[Ron61]

Terry,

We have that problem for real up here with the local police. Almost every day or so there is another report of some wrong doing they have done, but it isn't all of them, just a few bad ones that need to be gotten rid of. Trouble is, no one wants to call them for anything as they won't respond to anything and you never know if you are talking to an honest LEO. But all of them get blamed just as in any job. You can have 15 honest people and one jerk and they are all judged by the jerk. Even our Sheriff of a several years back had to leave town because his son was taking dope from the evidence locker and selling it on the street with his Father's knowledge. At least we now have an honest sheriff and most of his subordinate officers are honest and work hard at their jobs. They deserve far more credit that they get.


Ron

[tcrist]

Originally Posted by Ron61

Terry,

We have that problem for real up here with the local police. Almost every day or so there is another report of some wrong doing they have done, but it isn't all of them, just a few bad ones that need to be gotten rid of. Trouble is, no one wants to call them for anything as they won't respond to anything and you never know if you are talking to an honest LEO. But all of them get blamed just as in any job. You can have 15 honest people and one jerk and they are all judged by the jerk. Even our Sheriff of a several years back had to leave town because his son was taking dope from the evidence locker and selling it on the street with his Father's knowledge. At least we now have an honest sheriff and most of his subordinate officers are honest and work hard at their jobs. They deserve far more credit that they get.


Ron

Ron,
You are probably correct. To bad it only takes 1 or 2 corrupt cops to screw it up for everyone else on the force.

[Excaliber]

I'll second Terry's opinion on the police in general though, some places worse than others.

[vector1]

interpol is intelligence, not apprehension from my understanding.

i just watched "the international" and thought interpol and the fbi worked well together.

[SPF2245]

I think there is a general misunderstanding of what Interpol does. First, Interpol focuses on criminal investigations (key) not making apprehensions (they don’t have the powers of arrest and as a fact one of their core laws prohibits them from it). Their focus is conducting investigations targeting criminal organizations, trafficking humans, drugs, financial crimes and training/support of law enforcement officers.

Next, in conducting these type of investigations, many organizations will hide from local prosecution by having their physical presence in one country while conducting their crime(s) in another country. This means the local jurisdiction is limited at best (actually stopped cold in most situations) from being able to investigate the crime. Interpol sidesteps this by have 180+ countries in it’s charter so it can complete an investigation where the victim is say, in the US but the perpetrator is in Poland. I use that example because my last major victim of identity theft (domestic victim) had been victimized by a Polish citizen. Interpol can take a case from here and work it to the other end. Without this change in law, Interpol’s investigations leading to money laundering started in the US stopped at our shores. Now they can continue an investigation which will allow local or federal officers make an arrest.

But hey, if you think some International Po-po is going to invade your residence and take you into custody for a crime you didn't commit, then maybe you should unplug your computer, throw away your cell phone and live in the woods of Idaho...just watch out for Big Foot!

Clear as mud, eh.

[tcrist]

SPF2245, or anyone else
If what you say is true and all they do is investigate, then why do they need immunity?