'Jesus Scopes' in Line of Fire

[Gunner]

Originally Posted by Ron61

If our press wasn't so Anti American they would be doing the same thing. It is going to be don whether you or I like it or not.

Sorry, you lost me on that turn. I don't see this as being about the press; the New York Times didn't cast that inscription on the scopes. Is it ABC's fault for pointing it out?

[Ron61]

Not well worded on my part. I never said they cast the inscription on the scope. They don't hesitate to point it out to the world though. But how many times have they made a big deal out of any other group having something with their religious symbol on it. I don't approve of it, but I don't have anything to do with it being done.

As for the It is going to be done part, I meant that groups are going to keep or have religious symbols on their weapons whether we like it or not. They even had them on some of the rifles they used in Korea but they weren't put there by the military, just the regular Infantry people. Somewhat like the names painted on bombers in World War 11.

Ron

[Gunner]

Originally Posted by Ron61;10****4

They don't hesitate to point it out to the world though.

I still don't see how it's not news, or how ABC is doing a disservice (net) by reporting it.

As for the It is going to be done part, I meant that groups are going to keep or have religious symbols on their weapons whether we like it or not. They even had them on some of the rifles they used in Korea but they weren't put there by the military, just the regular Infantry people.

Of course this has been the case for a long, long time. I'd draw a distinction, though, between individual grunts doing it to their weapons, helmets, vests etc. and providing equipment with the quote or symbol manufactured in. So a Jewish soldier finds it offensive: is he likely to be allowed to grind it off? Doubt it.

Making it part of officially issued gear makes it an official policy or statement - and that's inappropriate, and whether you think it's unAmerican or not, reporting inappropriate acts of the military is news.

[Ron61]

Gunner,

Making it part of officially issued gear makes it an official policy or statement - and that's inappropriate, and whether you think it's unAmerican or not, reporting inappropriate acts of the military is news.


I never said it wasn't news. I said they don't make such a big scene about it when the terrorists or other side does it. If it is so wrong for our people to do it, and in this case I agree with you, it was wrong, why isn't it wrong when the other sides do it and why don't they cover that? And don't tell me they don't have some of their religious symbols engraved on the weapons by whoever issued them to them or please provide proof of it.

Ron

[Gunner]

Originally Posted by Ron61

I said they don't make such a big scene about it when the terrorists or other side does it.

Maybe we read different newspapers, but I hardly ever see a reference to the opposition in these wars that doesn't make specific issue of their open religious basis for the conflict. I never read anything that supports their viewpoint or even says that religious belief is an okay basis for war; a major part of our rationale for being there is our opposition to religious tyranny. Which is why it's so inappropriate for our military to put or permit religious symbols on officially-issued gear.