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Old 02-25-2010, 06:39 AM
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So many things and people are screwing with the economy that it would take a page to just list them. I am not saying they should be exempt from the law, just that their land was stolen in the first place. I have no more sympathy for the ones that break the law than I do anyone else, but I also hate the Diplomatic Immunity given to diplomats and that goes for ours in other countries as well as theirs in this country. The Indians won't let them build another bridge and the Environmentalists won't let them build one at Dunsmuir where they have had continual train wrecks because of that very sharp curve. A few years ago they had one that killed everything along the river and clear into the lake. No bridge as it might mess up the fish habitat.
Sorry for the long rants. I am not trying to argue, just feel lousy and can't seem to get my mind to work at all this morning. Eight straight weeks of doctors visits have let me kind of in a daze.

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Bill,

So many things and people are screwing with the economy that it would take a page to just list them. I am not saying they should be exempt from the law, just that their land was stolen in the first place. I have no more sympathy for the ones that break the law than I do anyone else, but I also hate the Diplomatic Immunity given to diplomats and that goes for ours in other countries as well as theirs in this country. The Indians won't let them build another bridge and the Environmentalists won't let them build one at Dunsmuir where they have had continual train wrecks because of that very sharp curve. A few years ago they had one that killed everything along the river and clear into the lake. No bridge as it might mess up the fish habitat.
Sorry for the long rants. I am not trying to argue, just feel lousy and can't seem to get my mind to work at all this morning. Eight straight weeks of doctors visits have let me kind of in a daze.

Ron
Their land?They weren't the first ones here.Neither were we.

Sorry,but EnviroMENTALISTS don't have enough clout to stop a railroad.Something else is "afoot".
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Their land?They weren't the first ones here.Neither were we.

Sorry,but EnviroMENTALISTS don't have enough clout to stop a railroad.Something else is "afoot".
Sorry Bill but you are wrong about that. They have wanted to build that railroad bridge to take out the dangerous curve for the past 20 years and the very mention of it has the Environmentalists in court. They have also in the past 10 years here in this area stopped any construction of 2 highway bridges, any dams or power plants, yet they are leading the screaming about the need for more power but they want wind power. So about 6 years ago they fund a place up near Burney on the mountain that would work for wind power, got all the permits and everything and guess what. Here came the Environmentalists and took it to court to stop it as it would ruin the skyline for the few people that can actually see that part of it. They lost that fight and last summer they started the job and now the Environmentalists are suing to keep any power lines from being ran from the turbines to any place at that will spoil the urban scenery if you hike 15 miles up these canyons and happen to see one of them. But on a more LOGICAL note for the Environmentalists, they are also demanding more power as they drive their brand new SUVs from city to city to protest anything they can find. The Enviromentallists here have more power than the railroad and sometimes I think the state.

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[quote=Ron61;The Enviromentallists here have more power than the railroad and sometimes I think the state.Ron [/QUOTE]

Here is how the railroads work.They want to build a double track bridge over a wash(single track is already there)They burn down the old one,and while they are rebuilding the first one,they put up the second one.NO-ONE and a mean NO-ONE can stop them.
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Here is how the railroads work.They want to build a double track bridge over a wash(single track is already there)They burn down the old one,and while they are rebuilding the first one,they put up the second one.NO-ONE and a mean NO-ONE can stop them.
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There is no bridge at this spot to burn down and if they could build one that crosses the river it would eliminate one of the most dangerous spots on the railroad in this area. I doubt if even the railroad can burn down a mountain. The river kind of winds back on itself and the railroad is on a cut that follows the river and they have to make this hard switchback in this spot and when they have 100 or more cars is is very hard to not have one of them pull off the rails. The Environmentalists have screamed for years about this but THEY HAVE stopped the railroad from building a bridge across the river that would eliminate this dangerous spot.

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