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04-01-2010, 12:00 PM
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There are old pirates and there are bold pirates. But there are no old, bold pirates!!
OK, the original was Pilots not pirates. 
Reminds me. Watched a program about snipers on the military channel. The young sniper in Iraq commented to his older NCO spotter that the insurgents were surprisingly fast on their feet. The old NCO said, "Yeah, we ran out of slow ones a couple of years ago!!" |
04-01-2010, 02:59 PM
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From the article:
"Last May, pirates chased a U.S. Navy warship and fired small arms at it. The ship, which had recently served as a prison for captured pirates, increased speed and evaded the attack."
This done not sound good...
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Originally Posted by Tom Kirkham
From the article:
"Last May, pirates chased a U.S. Navy warship and fired small arms at it. The ship, which had recently served as a prison for captured pirates, increased speed and evaded the attack."
This done not sound good...
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Yeah, there must have been some sort of ROE issue there. That pirate ship should be at the bottom of the ocean.
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04-01-2010, 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by tom kirkham
from the article:
"last may, pirates chased a u.s. Navy warship and fired small arms at it. The ship, which had recently served as a prison for captured pirates, increased speed and evaded the attack."
this done not sound good...
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wtf!!!!!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom Kirkham
From the article:
"Last May, pirates chased a U.S. Navy warship and fired small arms at it. The ship, which had recently served as a prison for captured pirates, increased speed and evaded the attack."
This done not sound good...
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Simple, force wasn't needed or required. A bit of evasion goes a long way. We weren't scared, just saw no need to take human lives at that instance. We get enough bad PR 'cause we HAVE TO do certain things.
I for one think they did the smart thing.
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Simple, force wasn't needed or required. A bit of evasion goes a long way. We weren't scared, just saw no need to take human lives at that instance. We get enough bad PR 'cause we HAVE TO do certain things.
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Hit the Nail on the Head. I was on a Submarine in the Navy and while we were transiting on the surface near coastal waters, we were approached by a "Chinese Merchant Ship" who failed to head warnings to steer clear. As it got closer a deck gun was revealed and we realized we were dealing with Pirates disguising themselves as merchants. We changed course and sped up easily outrunning them. No shots were fired. Similar situation with another Sub but the pirates shot at them and put a hole in the Sail (Large vertical part you see) but did not puncture the hull. That sub submerged, came around behind and sank the pirates. Surfaced and searched for survivors who then became prisoners.
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I just re-read this. Look at the unstated sublety here. *They left all 11 pirates alone in little skiffs with no mothership 300 miles out at sea*. 300 miles is a LONG way home. Hmmmm.
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I just re-read this. Look at the unstated sublety here. *They left all 11 pirates alone in little skiffs with no mothership 300 miles out at sea*. 300 miles is a LONG way home. Hmmmm.
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Yup, reading is enlightening. 
Might be helpful if we tend to trust our folks to do the right thing in their own way.
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Simple, force wasn't needed or required. A bit of evasion goes a long way. We weren't scared, just saw no need to take human lives at that instance. We get enough bad PR 'cause we HAVE TO do certain things.
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If they are positively identified as pirates and are attacking a navy ship (or any other ship for that matter), I would much prefer we just sink them. They are a real problem in that part of the world and we need to increase their cost of doing business wherever we can.
I don't see how sinking a pirate ship that is actually firing on you generates bad PR. The only way I see bad PR is if you harm innocent people, fire on ships before being fired upon, etc. No way that is going to be a problem here.
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Simple, force wasn't needed or required. A bit of evasion goes a long way. We weren't scared, just saw no need to take human lives at that instance. We get enough bad PR 'cause we HAVE TO do certain things.
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Hmmmm....I like the environmental angle.
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