My dad's girlfriend died

[Scott S]

I have found out about several lawsuits the GF has filed for different claims, it appears my dad fronted the money on all of them in with the promise(handshake) from her he would get the money back when she won. Dad mortgaged the property his granddad homesteaded, it used to have nearly a million $s of timber on it but half went to mom in the divorce the rest has been depleted over the last few years.

It looks as if the property that has been in my family for over 120 years will be gone soon.

Scott S

[twobjshelbys]

If she had Power of Attorney and was abusing this privilege she could be charged with abuse by a person of authority. I'd be talking to an attorney ASAP. You may have the ability to recover against her estate (provided she didn't squander it away, which she probably did, but don't worry about picking the last pieces of meat off the bones.)

Sorry to hear about this and good luck.

[Scott S]

Update...

It turns out the c*nt took the back page off a medical POA and a signature stamp of my Dad's and got 6 credit cards in my dad's name. Now owing over $65K.

She schemed to get half ownership in a $150K vacant lot my dad owns and took out a $100K mortgage on it.

She skimmed money from my Dad's credit line to keep her sons dive of a restaurant afloat. $75K +

She used my Dad's signature to personally guarantee a lease on some food service equipment which is now in collections at $15K.

She was working on getting a $275K reverse mortgage on what remained of the equity of my dads home when she croaked

So far US bank has been helpful and has their fraud division involved, the other creditor haven't been so willing yet.

I am sure there is more to come....

Scott S

[Jamo]

You could sell the movie rights.

[PatBuckley]

I would find the body and shoot it.

Is that legal?

Would feel good.

[Silverback51]

Originally Posted by PatBuckley

I would find the body and shoot it.

Is that legal?

Would feel good.

At least piss on her grave.

[427sharpe]

[i]It turns out the c*nt took the back page off a medical POA and a signature stamp of my Dad's and got 6 credit cards in my dad's name. Now owing over $65K.

Ask the credit card lenders thru certified mail (prefer the lawyer do this) for copies of actual SIGNED promissory notes. There are rules strictly enforcing 'live signature' and you should be able to prove rather easily that dad did not sign. They go after her estate for fraud.

She schemed to get half ownership in a $150K vacant lot my dad owns and took out a $100K mortgage on it.

WHOA! What mortgage company/title agent did this!?!?! Even if she cosigns, a loan like this would require his signature--in person--! Prove that the POA was a fraud, and this is fruit of the poison tree....

She skimmed money from my Dad's credit line to keep her sons dive of a restaurant afloat. $75K +

Go after son! Not much hope here, as he will say it was a gift rather than a loan, but hammer him anyway.

She used my Dad's signature to personally guarantee a lease on some food service equipment which is now in collections at $15K.

Again, prove the POA false, and this becomes fraud...and their recourse is her estate.

Excellent choice on getting the bank's fraud people involved. If they will certify that they believe their transactions were fraudulent, it becomes a very good piece of evidence against others...including sonny boy the restaurateur, as you can allege that he KNEW of her fraud and was a participant. Overall, it's messy but I think you stand an excellent chance of getting your dad disentangled. Good luck, and keep on keepin' on!

[Silverback51]

Just out of curiousity, how is dad responding to all of this?

[Scott S]

Originally Posted by 427sharpe

Excellent choice on getting the bank's fraud people involved. If they will certify that they believe their transactions were fraudulent, it becomes a very good piece of evidence against others...including sonny boy the restaurateur, as you can allege that he KNEW of her fraud and was a participant. Overall, it's messy but I think you stand an excellent chance of getting your dad disentangled. Good luck, and keep on keepin' on!

It looks as if the DA will be going after the son, but it's the blood out of a turnip kind of thing there is nothing left .

We can't find anywhere yet the funds were stashed, she was suing a attorney for malpractice and it seems some money was directed there.

Scott S

[Scott S]

Originally Posted by Silverback51

Just out of curiousity, how is dad responding to all of this?

When my dad first met the cu*t I warned him to be careful, over the last several years I have made every attempt to get him to realize what was going on. I showed him evidence that she transferred ownership on the lot with and where she took out a loan claiming to be married. I had a very heated Father's Day discussion a couple of years back when I told him he was being "punked". He told me to mind my own f'n business and he knew what he was doing....

Friday night he called to see if I could help him get in to her email account( he doesn't know the password) and if I have found anything from the backup copy I got off her computer. He also told me that he was sorry for not listening.

Lately the four hardest words to keep from saying is "I told you so".

Scott S

[Silverback51]

Originally Posted by Scott S

When my dad first met the cu*t I warned him to be careful, over the last several years I have made every attempt to get him to realize what was going on. I showed him evidence that she transferred ownership on the lot with and where she took out a loan claiming to be married. I had a very heated Father's Day discussion a couple of years back when I told him he was being "punked". He told me to mind my own f'n business and he knew what he was doing....

Friday night he called to see if I could help him get in to her email account( he doesn't know the password) and if I have found anything from the backup copy I got off her computer. He also told me that he was sorry for not listening.

Lately the four hardest words to keep from saying is "I told you so".

Scott S

Just remember he is your father everytime those words come to mind, and just keep working to heal the wounds and it will all work out.

Best of luck to you Scott.

[Scott S]

Time to update,

My dad showed up on my job site yesterday( I work about a 100 miles from his home) and showed me a letter from his girlfriends sons attorney. It seems the son sold a restaurant that my dad had a 40% interest in through a LLC without consulting my dad kept all the proceeds($25K) and is trying to force my dad to dissolve the LLC and pay off a $100K loan.

Dad is 79, the last real asset he has is some timber on the homestead and he was trying to log some of it up until two weeks ago when he fell down and broke his arm at the shoulder. I just got off the phone with him after finding a really good logger to finish the work and dad told me he didn't like the guy and didn't want him on the place. Just after dad asked me to lend $25K....I told him no, I also told him he doesn't have the luxury of time or being picky.

To top it all off a small meteorite fell on the place 60 years ago and was picked up by my Grand dad. It was misplaced years ago and some loon told my dad it could be worth a million $'s. He has been driving everybody crazy trying to find it as it would cure all of his problems.

The madness continues....

scott

[Bxx1]

Originally Posted by 392cobra

Scott,
I'm sorry you and your family are having to go through this with your Dad.

Your Dad has been acting irresponsibly for some time. There is no reason to believe he is going to start being rsponsible now with your credit at risk.
I would not co-sign,period. You will end up with damaged credit and paying the $75k yourself in the end. You would be better off just giving him the money.Then expect him to be back for more and having an enemy if you don't give more.

I would see that see has a roof over his head and food but nothing more than that.

Tough love time.

One vote for tough love.

[twin turbo]

Can I ask how this turned all turned out?

[Scott S]

Originally Posted by twin turbo

Can I ask how this turned all turned out?

My dad is broke and still suing the girlfriends son, it seems my father can't figure out turnips have no money.

This article came out about my company a month ago,

http://loggersworld.com/sites/logger...26%20Pgs_0.pdf

My son was terribly injured in a logging accident on 12/19 and I called dad to tell him of the event and which hospital my boy was in. All dad wanted to do was complain he didn't get the attention he deserved in the article and blasted me for it all even though I had nothing to do with the editing.

I have since cut all connections with the jerk,

Scott S

[392cobra]

Most important,how is Orion ?

Really nice piece on the history of your company and how you and your wife are now running it. Great that it has picked back up from the 2008 downturn.

[bliss]

If it's a bad as you say, your Dad needs to look into filing BK.

[Scott S]

Originally Posted by 392cobra

Most important,how is Orion ?

Really nice piece on the history of your company and how you and your wife are now running it. Great that it has picked back up from the 2008 downturn.

Every day all in the forest industry on the west coast should face west and genuflect towards China, nearly 70% of our production is going to the far east.

Orion was hit in the left leg totally dislocating the joint to the point I thought we were dealing with a broken femur. Every ligament was snapped and the lower leg had slipped up towards his thigh. It took us four hours to get him out of the brush and to a hospital. Dr's tell us these injuries are very rare and usually result in removal of the lower leg. Orion is the exception, he's young, healthy and tough. He has had four surgeries with more planned, we got him back to his home yesterday. We are expecting 6 months to a year for recovery.

Scott S

[Jamo]

Truly I say this...great story on your company, Scott. The Ag industry in California has the same view...the West Coast is part of the Pacific Rim economy so we might as well act like it.

Glad your son's getting the chance to recover from something like that.