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Old 08-10-2007, 04:54 PM
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427sharpe...YES, I hadn't even thought about the damn 'bike paths' and rideways. They are all over the place down here as well, and you think they'd allow cars on them, at least at weekends, but "OH NO"...cyclists ONLY.

More of my tax dollars at work building useless paths to nowhere so a bunch of "Tour de France wannabees" can pursue their hobby at MY expense!!!!! Perhaps we should ask the local councils to build "Cobra only" lanes on the freeways...hmmm...now THERE'S AN IDEA...

ROFL...so heartening to see other curmudgeons out there who agree with me...ah, time for a long cold beer to celebrate...
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Old 08-11-2007, 06:16 AM
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About a year ago they spent several million dollars taking away two of the 4 lanes on the heaviest traveled Boulevard here that goes over to Shasta Dam and putting in sidewalks and a bicycle lane. The sidewalks are a joke as you may as well put them along I-5, not one time have I seen one of our many bicyclists in the bicycle lane, they still ride in the single remaining car lane. And the police will cite any car that pulls into the bicycle lane to get past one of these idiots, but not say a word to the bicyclist.

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Old 08-11-2007, 07:53 PM
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maybe some hi-pressure water jets on the front of the cars would help get the bikes out of the way when they discover they are getting wet they would pull off to see what is going on. Maybe some real smelly water would work best.
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Maybe some real smelly water would work best.

With purple indicator dye added to it that way you would know them in the grocery store.

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Old 08-13-2007, 07:38 AM
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I don't know about where you live, but up here I have never seen a cyclist ever obey any rules of the road. They never stop at stop signs or red lights unless they are going to get mowed down by the cars. Normally they just breeze right through like the signs aren't there. They drive on either side of the road, the wrong way on one-way streets, on side walks, etc. Then they get pissed when a driver opens the door on his parked car just as they are about to go flying by.

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Not so fast,Glyn. Not everybody here agrees with you.

Why doesn't everybody just take a deep breath and calm down?

I have 28,000 miles on my Cobra and 21,000 on my road bike. I have encountered my share of "the road belongs to me" crowd. I'll address some of these issues one by one.

"Trespassers in the motorcars domain, they do not pay road tax and therefore have no right to be on the road, some of them even believe they are going fast enough to not be an obstruction. Run them down to prove them wrong."

No need to kill anybody. How could you advocate that? Feeling invincible in your vehicle? Contrary to what you may think, I do pay road taxes. I pay every time I buy gasoline.

"Now, I have to agree wholeheartedly with this sentiment, especially here in "Lance Armstrong's town". These people are EVERYWHERE in their yellow spandex outfits, fingerless gloves, goofy looking helmets, poofy little shoes, cluttering up the road, slowing down traffic and generally poluting the environment for us long suffereing motorists. I am preparing a short brief for the Mayor of Austin, and eventually the Governor of Texas to propose the following..."

No need to make fun of the clothing and equipment worn by cyclists. Just the proper attire for the activity, much like driving shoes, driving suits and helmets for a track day in the Cobra. I don't quite understand how cyclists "polute" the environment, though.

"1) All cyclists must pay a $50 per year road tax before they are allowed on ANY roads
2) They must pay to have their bicycles 'inspected' once a year at specially designated "CIP" locations (Cycle Inspection Posts). $10 inspection fee
3) They must get insurance before they are allowed on the roads. Insurance will vary depending on the age and experience and cycling record of said cyclist. Minimum annual charge of $100
4) They must buy a specially engineered bracket ($15) to display their inspection stickers and their road tax licenses"

If cyclists do all of that and can then ride ANYWHERE on ANY road, would you quit complaining? I doubt it.

"Just think of the increased tax revenue which would perhaps a) help pay for better roads and b) reduce the road fees WE innocent motorists have to pay.

The insurance companies would get more revenues (like they NEED that????) and perhaps reduce the insurance costs of us innocent motorists."

Innocent of what, "running them down?"

"We could increase employment with all the mindless bureaucrats needed to enforce the new regulations.

I see this as a complete win-win situation here...either that, or cyclists should be declared 'fair game', and we should be permitted to at least 'clip' them with a front fender on passing, just to serve them right!"

How long have you been a sociopath?

"Why is it that they don't at least have to pay road tax...they USE the roads don't they????"

How about pedestrians? Don't they use the road whenever they cross the street? How much are you willing to pay to display your "Walk on the Pavement " license, and where are you going to display YOUR stickers? Should pedestrians pay extra insurance, too?

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The smiley doesn't mask your resentment.

"Glyn"

Everybody pays a lot of tax money for things from which they get no benefit. Do all of you guys complain about that, too?

The guy who assaulted the cyclist and threw his bike off the cliff doesn't deserve cheers and applause, he deserves a stretch in San Quentin.

As far as the complaints about cyclists breaking traffic laws, has anybody here ever broken a traffic law? If so, pot, kettle, black. I obey the laws as much as anybody else. When I ride in the country and see cars rolling through stop signs at 20 MPH, should I feel guilty about rolling through at 10? Maybe you guys would be happier if we all bought combines and drove slowly. Or motorhomes! I'd bet you're not happy about a fully licensed and insured motorhome using "your" road, either. Best solution - buy your own road and keep everybody off of it. If you don't have the money, you'll just have to share. Sorry...

Wayne, NEVER? You just said they don't stop unless they are going to be mowed down. That shoots your "never" argument down, doesn't it? Having a car door open in your path can be a very dangerous situation, but you don't think about that in your car, though. How about if somebody opened their door when you're passing in your Cobra? Would that be okay? How about if you were on a motorcycle?

I wish I could say I was surprised about all the violent, foaming-at-the-mouth comments here, but I'm not.

Lighten up and please give the cyclists some room. It takes bigger cojones to get passed by a semi doing 60 mph only 2 feet from your elbow than anything you'll probably ever do.

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Old 08-13-2007, 12:27 PM
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Maybe I didn't explain what I meant clearly. I can't speak for people in other towns but in the area of greater Montreal, cyclists virtually never stop at a stop sign or red light unless they can't cross due to on-coming (cross) traffic. I think that this is a clear statement.

I just saw (not more than 10 minutes ago) 3 teenagers going the wrong way (driving on the left side) of a divided secondary highway. They blew right through a red light jumped onto the left hand sidewalk and blew through another red light narrowly missing a car that was making a legal left hand turn. The driver never saw the kids as they were still on the wrong side of the road AND GOING THROUGH A RED LIGHT. Surely you cannot condone this behavior.

I didn't state that anyone should be shot or killed or anything else, I just stated that I am fed up with the reckless behavior of the vast majority of cyclists around where I live. As far as the car door thing goes, many times the cyclists are going the wrong way on a one way street, are driving on the wrong side of the road, or are weaving through traffic so the motorist has no idea that he may be opening his/her door when a cyclist is near by. I don't think that many people will purposely open their car door in front of a cyclist just for the fun of it.

I think that bicycles are a great form of transportation but I would like the cyclists to understand that the rules of the road apply to them as well as motor vehicles.

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It takes bigger cojones to get passed by a semi doing 60 mph only 2 feet from your elbow than anything you'll probably ever do.
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Really?Try hanging off a box car at 0200hrs 150 miles from any city and have a 8000 ft,6000 ton freight train go by 10 feet from you at 75mph,makes your ride seem like your were sitting in your living room.

This is verbatim form the Az.traffic law manual:

A.a person riding a bicycle on a roadway at less than the normal speed of traffic at the time and place and under the conditions then exisiting shall ride AS CLOSE AS PRACTIBLE to the right-hand curb or edge of roadway.

4B-Persons riding bicyles on a roadway shall NOT RIDE MORE THAN 2 ABREAST except on paths or parts of roadways set aside for the exclusive use by bicycles.

Obviously,you pedal-yer-ass types don't follow the rules.So what's your solution-AL?

Bicyclists are one of the reason i installed locomotive horns on my truck.Turns them pretty "yellow spandex shorts"brown.
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