Vick accepts plea agreement

[Cobrabill]

i wasn't comparing Vick to Duke.The Duke players were railroaded on bogus,trumped up charges.I was using the Duke incident to show that "zero tolerance"policies are designed to make the auther look good and resultant consequences be damned.

[Wayne Maybury]

Bill

You say that pro athletes are not roll models, I disagree. Ask some teen age boys who they consider to be roll models and they almost certainly will include the names of pro athletes. Isn't a roll model someone that younger people hold in high esteem and want to be like?

As far as supporting pro athletes, I am very proud to say that I have not put one cent in the pocket of a professional athlete in many years. I don't even watch pro sports on TV any more.

Wayne

[Cobrabill]

Originally Posted by Wayne Maybury

Bill
You say that pro athletes are not roll models, I disagree. Ask some teen age boys who they consider to be roll models and they almost certainly will include the names of pro athletes. Isn't a roll model someone that younger people hold in high esteem and want to be like?

As far as supporting pro athletes, I am very proud to say that I have not put one cent in the pocket of a professional athlete in many years. I don't even watch pro sports on TV any more.Wayne

Wayne-you just hit on the problem-WE(the parents) decide who the role model(s)are.Kids don't get to(shouldn't) decide that.

Back in the day i was a huge Alice Cooper fan.( i still am)But i knew he wasn't a role model.I knew it was his JOB!The fact that parents are letting kids diecide who is a role model and who isn't is mind blowing.

Mike- i am not "apologizing" for anyone.
And the Duke players did NOTHING wrong.And to say that if they hadn't been there this wouldn't have happened is insane.That's like saying if the Archduke Ferdinands driver didn't take a wrong turn,WWI wouldn't have happened.

Screw the final decision.Go read up on "Fatty Arbuckle".
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Mike I agree,

Stick to your guns buddy! I am with you, ONE screw up they are OUT, for good! What is all this three strikes and your out crap. "Let's go hold up a store and kill someone Bubba, we have two more strikes" WTF?

These guys need to straighten up, shut up or get the Helll out of the public eye. Like you my wife keeps a lid on what our kids can watch on TV, read on the web and listen to on the radio.

These morons are as Jamo said "trash" and should not be allowed into our homes. It is because we let them in that our children act like them.

What I want to know is what in the hell happened to Dad's being the major role model in our sons lives. I know "for one" I take that responsibility very seriously. Listen folks we only get one chance to raise our kids, (as most of you know) if we screw that up, NOTHING we accomplish in life will be worth a damn!

Plain and simple, It's called parenting!

Steve-agree completely.Like i said above-KIDS SHOULD NOT get to decide who is a role model!!!And parents that let them are the problem

Mike-you and i are basically on the same page.But you want to come in with a chaingun and cut everyone down and then if someone who got hit-shouldn't have,you'll apologize to the family.This is where we split.I also agree with your(and others)assessment of the current "pro-athlete" situation and further agree,something needs to be done.

[Wayne Maybury]

Bill

I think that you have really got it right about children not receiving enough guidence from their parents. Social values change and I think that our society has swung way too far to the "everything is OK" scenario. I have been saying for quite a few years that one of the major problems that society faces today is a total lack of responsibility and accountability. It is always somone else's fault.

I was quite strict with my kids and sometimes my wife would get upset with me (never in front of the kids). My girls are all grown up now and they have thanked me many times for keeping them on the straight and narrow when they wanted to stray. Today many parents want to be "friends" with their children instead of being a parent first, and a friend second.

Wayne

[Ron61]

Wayne,

Social values have changed in the 900 years since I was young, but I still think right is right and wrong is wrong no matter who it is. And I am living proof that getting whipped when you are a kid doesn't make you into a killer or any other kind of criminal. My Father wore out more razor straps on my butt than they did in the barber shop. But I never received a whipping that I didn't deserve and have never held any ill feelings about it. I had some roll models, but that don't mean I turned out like them. Stan Musial was one of mine. Barry Bonds isn't. Darn, I know what I want to say but can't seem to get it together. Should have gone to law school I guess.

Ron