Israelis Bomb Nuke Site???

[4RE KLR]

How about GW's speach today

When asked about the bombings.

"I am not going to talk about that", "I said I am not going to talk about that"

What to hell is going on in Washington these days?

[imagine2frolic]

GW doesn't realize that he is the President of the United States. He thinks he was voted in as Emporer.

[Wes Tausend]

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I didn't follow this too closely. Did anybody actually verify that there was nuclear material there? What about fallout? If it was another Chernobyl, or even 1/10 of one, isn't anybody worried.

Or is this another scary political ploy? Something doesn't smell right.


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[VRM]

Wes,
Well, something has to get us all worked up and excited about attacking Iran! I don't think people are going to fall for the ol' "Look at the WMD" trick again. Well, maybe they will...

Steve

[bomelia]

Well, its time to put it all into perspective again...

[VRM]

Originally Posted by bomelia

Well, its time to put it all into perspective again...

Right, Mike,
And we should give up 5% of our country so that the illegal Mexicans can have someplace to live.

Your land is available, right?

Steve

[bomelia]

if you can take it, you can have it.

[BeanCounter]

Steve,

What makes you think that the Palestinians have a greater claim to the land than the Jews. After all didn't the Romans destroy and confiscate everything in 79 A.D. and run them out of their own country? I believe it was just giving them their homeland back after a terrible injustice. Now if you can find any Canaanites then maybe you have a point.

[Wes Tausend]

Originally Posted by BeanCounter

Steve,

What makes you think that the Palestinians have a greater claim to the land than the Jews. After all didn't the Romans destroy and confiscate everything in 79 A.D. and run them out of their own country? I believe it was just giving them their homeland back after a terrible injustice. Now if you can find any Canaanites then maybe you have a point.

Really it dates back to that first caveman entrepreneur that claimed the "berry patch" for his own... thereby simultaneously inventing capitalism and private land property. Where is that picture of Roscoe's Geico Gullible Guy?


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[VRM]

Originally Posted by BeanCounter

Steve,

What makes you think that the Palestinians have a greater claim to the land than the Jews. After all didn't the Romans destroy and confiscate everything in 79 A.D. and run them out of their own country? I believe it was just giving them their homeland back after a terrible injustice. Now if you can find any Canaanites then maybe you have a point.

Palestinians had (and still have in many cases) registered deeds proving ownership.

Think we should give land back to the Navaho? Any other groups you want to give land back to? Italy, England, Turkey? Why are the Jews special when it comes to giving land back after a few hundred years?

Yes, it was an injustice, but that same injustice has happened to many groups and they all deal with it. You don't correct one wrong by adding another on top of it. This is the land equivalent of Afirmative Action for Jews.

In 500 years are we going to do the same thing for the Palestinians when someone finally decides that they were wronged as well?

Steve

[BeanCounter]

Wow, registered deeds!! With the same authentication I imagine Goering had for all the art he stole from them.

Give the land back to the Navaho? Sure, give it to them. Now let's see if they can hold it this time.

That's the point. How far back do we go? So let's turn them loose and let them settle this themselves with no outside influences, ON EITHER SIDE. What do you think the US would do if the Navaho suddenly became restless and started bombing our cities and people. We'd crush them like a bug. Let Israel do the same. But if Syria and the others start backing the Palestinians then I say let's back our friends.

[CobraEd]

Isreal did not win the land in a war like every other nation. As I understand it Truman GAVE it to them due to the pressure from the American jews. Is this true?

[BeanCounter]

Ed,

I guess they don't teach history any more. Truman didn't give them squat.

Here read up on it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Arab-Israeli_War

This could have been settled a long time ago but the Muslims aren't going to be happy until they either subjugate or exterminate every Jew there is. That's sort along of the same lines of what they want to do to "The Great Satan" (which in case you don't know is you and me). How is your wife going to look in a Burqua there Ed of America???

[VRM]

Originally Posted by CobraEd

Isreal did not win the land in a war like every other nation. As I understand it Truman GAVE it to them due to the pressure from the American jews. Is this true?

The UN gave it to them officially. The British and the French began that giving process a few decades before that.

Steve

[VRM]

Ah, Bernie,
I understand you now. Might makes right.

So when a thug beats you up and steals your car then it is OK, because he is stronger than you.

The deeds were registered and had the same level of legality that your have. Is your not legit?

So why are the Jews special? Why are they more important than the people who were living there?

Steve

[CobraEd]

Good info guys. I am not much into history. Thanks for the correction.

[BeanCounter]

Ah Steve,

So are the deeds (whatever they were back then) from 79AD less legit than the Pali's? What makes the Palestinians so special???

Let me tell you what makes the Jews special. They are more of a friend to us than the Palestinians. Their mothers don't teach their children to strap on bomb belts and kill innocent women and children. They don't cheer when crazys fly planes into buildings and kill innocent civilians. They indulge in self defense rather than offensive operations. You know, little things like that. On the relative scale I'll take the Jews over the Palestinians. Even their own people kicked them out (see Jordan for the history).

PS I notice you haven't given your home back to the Indians. Do I sense hypocrit here????

[VRM]

Bernie,
The Israelis have plenty of experience with bombing busses, sniping innocents, and so on. They did it before the Arabs did. The Arabs learned that pathetic game from the Israelis.

I don't want friends like that. I am sick of the 'Israelis can do no wrong' attitude. Israel has done some pretty horrible things at the expense of others in order to get what it wants. I have no interest in seeing our tax dollars supporting ANY government that pulls that kind of crap. You are obviously willing to look the other way when Israel does it, but when the Arabs do it you scream 'terrorist'. That is being a hypocrite.

And actually, the Jews had claim to large chunks of property in Spain before Christians messed it up for them. That claim is about a thousand years more recent. Maybe that should be given to them as well.

Steve

[Roscoe]

Here is the deed of the Jews

[WildBill3]

And I will Bless those, that bless you(meaning Isreal)and Curse those who Curse you ..God. I know the side I want to be on.Long live the star of Daivid.WB3 ps.I wouldnt want to get on his bad side.