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Old 10-15-2007, 02:11 PM
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Actually, I despise the left about as much as I despise the right. The left seems to have no answers to our collective problems, and the right seems to have a lot of wrong answers. You need to call me a lefty simply because I disagree with you on most things we talk about in here, and your limited thinking only allows you to see things in black and white.

The MSM raked Clinton over the coals, and as well they should have. The GOP has been spared much of that until recently, when 'conventional wisdom' has turned against the GOP, and GOP-bashing now sells.

The thought of Clinton in the White House horrifies me, but it will probably happen. I suspect that the MSM pendulum will swing back towards the GOP once she begins her term and starts her own screw-ups. I am hoping that the GOP will get its head together and offer up some real small government, small taxes candidates. I hope it only takes one term of Clinton to be able to do that, but the way the GOP has been (not) functioning lately I am not counting on it.

BTW, the job in Iraq is done. There are no WMDs and we are fighting primarily Iraqis who want their country back. We need to start sending the troops to Afghanistan and let the Iraqis begin to solve their own problems.

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CdC,
Actually, I despise the left about as much as I despise the right. The left seems to have no answers to our collective problems, and the right seems to have a lot of wrong answers. You need to call me a lefty simply because I disagree with you on most things we talk about in here, and your limited thinking only allows you to see things in black and white.
The MSM raked Clinton over the coals, and as well they should have. The GOP has been spared much of that until recently, when 'conventional wisdom' has turned against the GOP, and GOP-bashing now sells.
The thought of Clinton in the White House horrifies me, but it will probably happen. I suspect that the MSM pendulum will swing back towards the GOP once she begins her term and starts her own screw-ups. I am hoping that the GOP will get its head together and offer up some real small government, small taxes candidates. I hope it only takes one term of Clinton to be able to do that, but the way the GOP has been (not) functioning lately I am not counting on it.
BTW, the job in Iraq is done. There are no WMDs and we are fighting primarily Iraqis who want their country back. We need to start sending the troops to Afghanistan and let the Iraqis begin to solve their own problems.
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It's not seeing thing in black or white, its seeing things as they are. At least on the left they have positions, of sorts, they take positions, of sorts and the right is very firm when it comes to positions on the issues. In your case, the middle, you don't really have positions you simply mre or less call everyone stupid with you having all the answers, especially in hindlight. Yes, no WMD's, but SH stated that he had them, he informed his generals that he had them - the entire free world, except for you, believed that he had them, so reality at the time - he had them. Now, what about that scenario don't you understand?

BTW, your posts on this issue are simply a huge load of codswallop. I’m going to need a bigger wheelbarrow, but please keep posting.
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It's not seeing thing in black or white, its seeing things as they are. At least on the left they have positions, of sorts, they take positions, of sorts and the right is very firm when it comes to positions on the issues. In your case, the middle, you don't really have positions you simply mre or less call everyone stupid with you having all the answers, especially in hindlight. Yes, no WMD's, but SH stated that he had them, he informed his generals that he had them - the entire free world, except for you, believed that he had them, so reality at the time - he had them. Now, what about that scenario don't you understand?

BTW, your posts on this issue are simply a huge load of codswallop. I’m going to need a bigger wheelbarrow, but please keep posting.
Of course he had them! We gave them to him! He had them for years and he never used them against us. They also expired years ago. His WMD were also not likely to ever be used against us UNLESS we attacked him. His WMD (or rather, the threat of those WMD) helped keep Iran in check. Hussein would also not allow Iran to get nukes because he would have been one of the first people they would be used on. That threat to Iran is now gone, and instead, Iraq will eventually end up favouring Iran. Obviously, you don't know that a very strong Iran is not in our best interests, nor in the best interests of the rest of the countries in the ME. You have a very shortsighted view of how to balance powers in order to cancel those powers out.

Scowcroft knows a helluva lot more about this than either of us do, and he thought it was a bad idea as well. Why is that? A lot of generals are retiring and saying that we violated the rules of war, the Powell Doctrine, and so on. They all must be evil libs, right?

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