Hillary Mulls Supporting Illegal Alien Pilot License

[Roscoe]

Hillary Mulls Supporting Illegal Alien Pilot License
by Scott Ott for ScrappleFace · 27 Comments

(2007-11-01) — As Democrat presidential candidate Hillary Clinton continues to work round the clock with advisers to determine exactly how she feels about granting automobile driver’s licenses to illegal immigrants, the Senator today announced she may support New York Gov. Elliot Spitzer’s new proposal to allow undocumented workers to receive airline transport pilot certification from the FAA, allowing them to fly commercial jets.

“Giving a pre-documented immigrant a license to fly a jumbo jet would certainly bring him out of the shadows,” said Sen. Clinton. “In addition, since the flight certificate requires fluency in English, it would inspire him to learn one of our nation’s most important languages. So there’s a big potential upside.”

Although the senator said she had some concerns about national security, she also noted that “If the pilots of the four planes that crashed on 9/11 had applied for licenses, someone at the FAA might have seen those applications as cries for help, and our government could have delivered the counseling and support services that those alienated young men so desperately needed.”

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[Joe Wicked]

ummmmmm wow, just wow.

[Ron61]

I watched some of her crap on TV and she can't decide just how she wants to stand. Some of the other Democratic candidates are starting to claim she won't take any stand on any of the touch issues. Crap, why don't she just have some of them appointed president. Also something about her talking to 3 women about one of them being the first lady but I never caught all of it so I am not sure just what was said. But if that is so, I never realized she was a lesbian before.

Ron

[VRM]

I can't think of anyone in either party that would be worse than Hillary. I've noticed that Obama and Edwards have been finally stepping up their criticisms of her. Bloody well about time.

Steve

[Tallguy]

It is unbelievable what crap goes on in Washington and and in the states, (especially California). I am sure the terrorists would have been first in line to get a pilots license....

I loved the initiative to allow illegal immigrants to get drivers licenses in Cali. Umm, you don't exist in this country....why would we give you a driver's license?? Maybe if it was a big sting operation. The application center could be the DMV in San Diego, so there is not a long way to go to "complete" the test.

Now I am all for a guest worker program to legally allow people to enter the country to work if that is what is needed.

Mark

[Roscoe]

Back in the 40's we had the The Bracero Agreement regarding migrant workers. Seemed to work fine for decades. It's very simple.

http://www.farmworkers.org/bpaccord.html

[427 S/O]

That pathetic excuse she gave when ask if she intended to open the archives, was all most people needed to hear!. They all best be completely open for this presidential race.

It's early, but Huckabee is looking good.....

[lust4fia]

This is a joke isn't it? Good grief, I sure hope so!

[427 S/O]

Joke?, who, what, when, where............

[Excaliber]

I don't get it, how can they be 'illegal aliens' if there documented and licensed by the FAA? USA laws say pilots MUST retire at age 60. Right now there are a BUNCH of pilots applying for a Canadian commercial license to fly internationally to get around that law. That doesn't make them 'illegal aliens'.

BUTT, this quote from her clearly shows she IS clueless and VERY SCARY concerning the subject at hand.

“If the pilots of the four planes that crashed on 9/11 had applied for licenses, someone at the FAA might have seen those applications as cries for help, and our government could have delivered the counseling and support services that those alienated young men so desperately needed.”

Yeah, like those hijackers were making a 'call for help' and would respond well to 'treatment'. Man is this lady out of touch or what!!!

[427 S/O]

Roscoe your correct' The Bracero Agreement is simple, compassionate, fair and clear. Wonder why it was not referred too during the contemptuous 'immigration legislation'?.

[Bill Bess]

Two Cents......ANYBODY THAT WOULD LET BILL CLINTON GET AWAY WITH WHAT HE DID TO HER, AND OUR GREAT COUNTRY...IS CERTAINLY A WIMP AND CLUELESS.

HELP US LORD! Bill

[Tinker51]

Ummm, I don't suppose it has occured to anyone that you need not be a citizen of this country in order to hold a US pilot certificate.

[Excaliber]

Tinker, thats why the forced to retire pilots are getting licensed in Canada, and flying HERE!

[cobra de capell]

Stuff posted on scrappleface.com is humor, but based on something that happened, for example (WSJ):

Democrats who are nervous about having Hillary Clinton as their nominee had their fears confirmed last night. Mrs. Clinton finally stumbled in her seventh Democratic debate once the other candidates decided to chew on her.

Mrs. Clinton responded to the criticism by retreating to her briefing books, giving rehearsed answers to questions in a too loud, slightly shrill voice. She was pummeled for not releasing White House records kept by the National Archives that would shine light on her claim to be the most experienced candidate based on her service as First Lady.

But her worst moment came when she gave a bizarre answer to a question about a proposal by her fellow New York Democrat, Governor Eliot Spitzer, to give driver's licenses to illegal immigrants. Pressed by Tim Russert about whether she still favors his plan, as she told a New Hampshire paper, she launched into a long defense of it. Then, after Senator Chris Dodd attacked her stance, she interrupted and said: "I did not say that it should be done."

NBC's Tim Russert, one of the debate moderators, jumped in and said to her: "You told [a] New Hampshire paper that it made a lot of sense. Do you support his plan?"

"You know, Tim," Mrs. Clinton replied, "this is where everybody plays 'gotcha.'"

John Edwards quickly pounced: "Unless I missed something, Senator Clinton said two different things in the course of about two minutes. America is looking for a president who will say the same thing, who will be consistent, who will be straight with them."

Chris Matthews of MSNBC concluded that Mrs. Clinton had put herself in a box: "She will have to come out against giving . . . people in the country illegally a driver's license. It doesn't sell."

I'm not so sure. Mrs. Clinton has always had a soft spot for measures that many election officials say compromise the integrity of the ballot box. She sponsored a major bill to strip states of their right to bar felons from voting, a right many legal scholars say is enshrined in the Constitution.

Governor Spitzer's plan to grant driver's licenses to illegal aliens is equally controversial, in part because anyone with such a license could probably vote in elections with impunity. In order to register to vote, a person must sign an affidavit stating that he or she is an American citizen. "You assume that people don't lie, and that's what the form says," state Board of Elections spokesman Lee Daghlian told the New York Post. "It would be [tough to catch] if someone wanted to . . . get a number of people registered [to vote] who aren't citizens and went ahead and got them driver's licenses." Mr. Daghlian conceded that "nobody checks it" to determine if someone registering to vote is truly eligible.

Because of the federal Motor Voter Law, everyone getting a driver's license in New York is automatically handed a voter registration form. With New York being home to upwards of 500,000 illegal aliens, the potential for mischief is great, especially since the Spitzer administration has reversed a policy that would have barred the Department of Motor Vehicles from handing out motor-voter registration forms to anyone without a Social Security number.

Politically speaking, supporting driver's licenses for illegal aliens is an untenable position in a general election. But in the Democratic primaries, the issue is a litmus test for many liberal and immigrant groups backing Mrs. Clinton's candidacy. That helps explain her bizarre obfuscations in last night's debate, when she showed the first chink in her armor, her first failure to square her appeals to the liberal base with attempts to portray herself as a moderate.

"If she loses the nomination, [last night's debate] will go down in history as the first step to her defeat -- no fatal 'Dean Scream' catastrophe, but far from her finest moment, to say the least," concluded Time magazine political handicapper Mark Halperin.
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She later claimed that all the guys were basically beating up on her - one needs to wonder how she will function in the WH if she cannot handle a debate and answer questions in a straight forward manner.

[sllib]

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