Quality cars are BAD!!!!

[Cobrabill]

This "Green" religion is getting out of hand.

[finance.sympatico.msn.ca]

Cars lasting dramatically longer, bad news for the environment: DesRosiers
THE CANADIAN PRESS
November 21, 2007

TORONTO - Vehicles are lasting dramatically longer than even a few years ago, with 43 per cent of passenger cars built 15 years ago still on the road, and this is bad news for the environment, industry analyst Dennis DesRosiers reports.

A political focus on making new vehicles cleaner is "foolish," he declares, when the number of "old smokers" is the overwhelming factor in total emissions.
DesRosiers, the country's best-known auto industry observer, calculates that as recently as 2000 only 28 per cent of passenger cars purchased 15 years previously were still being operated.

Changes in survival rates "profoundly affect most elements of the vehicle industry," he wrote in a commentary released Wednesday, and these include "the most important issue facing the auto sector today: climate change."
Quality improvements allowing longer vehicle use are evident across the board, he said.

Whereas 35.2 per cent of 15-year-old General Motors, Ford and Chrysler vehicles, including trucks, were registered in 2000, that proportion rose to 43.7 per cent in 2006. Among import nameplates, the 15-year survival rate swelled to 53.9 per cent from 30.5 per cent.

DesRosiers credits a "technological cocktail," including electroplate-galvanized sheet metal, tighter manufacturing tolerances, better lubricants and widespread use of electronic fuel injection.

He noted that some vehicles stand the test of time better than others - 98.7 per cent of Porsches built 11 to 15 years ago are still registered, compared with 48.6 per cent of Chevrolets and 32.8 per cent of Hyundais - and in general high-priced cars stay in use longer.

The overall longevity trend is "positive for the aftermarket, negative for the environment, negative for new vehicle manufacturers, negative for the government - and most immediately, positive for the average Canadian vehicle owner," DesRosiers states.

"Older vehicles are the least fuel-efficient and highest-polluting users of the road," he points out. "A current model year vehicle emits 98 per cent less toxins into the air than a vehicle bought 15 years ago."

"This represents a much bigger challenge for green-concerned legislators than the issues related to getting the original equipment manufacturers to deliver a greener vehicle to the new vehicle buyer," he said.

"Last night I attended a dinner where one of our federal politicians stood up and beat up the automotive sector on the environment and proudly pronounced that the feds were going to implement strict vehicle emission standards for new vehicles," DesRosiers added.

"I think it rather foolish for any politician to target the already highly fuel-efficient and very environmentally friendly new vehicles. There are currently close to seven million vehicles on the road in Canada that are over 10 years old, or about 40 per cent of all light vehicles registered. But no politician has the backbone to target getting these old smokers off the road."

And with the strong Canadian dollar provoking an increase in imports from the United States, he warns: "There are over 240 million used vehicles parked within a few hours of Canada just waiting to come north, and most of them are gas-guzzling smokers.'

The proportion of passenger cars 11 to 15 years old still in use averages 60.6 per cent across the industry but varies widely among manufacturers. The latest numbers from 2006, according to DesRosiers Automotive Consultants with data from

R.L. Polk Canada:
Porsche 98.7%
Volvo 87.2%
Lexus 83.8%
BMW 83.6%
Mercedes-Benz 82.6%
Jaguar 81.4%
Toyota 78.2%
Audi 76.5%
Honda 76.5%
Acura 75.9%
Cadillac 74.6%
Lincoln 72.8%
Saab 72.2%
Saturn 69.2%
Buick 68.8%
Chrysler 68.8%
Oldsmobile 67.2%
Infiniti 65.8%
Mazda 64.8%
Volkswagen 63.1%
Nissan 61.0%
Subaru 59.1%
Mercury 54.9%
Dodge 54.6%
Pontiac 53.6%
Ford 53.6%
Plymouth 52.5%
Eagle 51.6%
Chevrolet 48.6%
Hyundai 32.8%
Suzuki 30.8%
Isuzu 19.8%
Lada 5.1%
Industry Average 60.6

[1ntCobra]

Someone should tell this clown that 104% of all 40 year or older Cobras are still out there. Another victory for Shelby over Porsche!

Even before the green thing came along, US politicians were pushing some incentives for crushing old cars. And then the classic/antique car enthusiasts started complaining...

I'm all for driving a car until it's not worth repairing anymore. With the price of premium lately, I drive my 94 RX-7 less and drive my wife's 91 Sentra more. And those wonderful greener emissions are not without cost. I replaced the Sentra's entire exhaust system including labor for about 2/3 the cost of the catalytic converter on our 98 Accord. Luckily I have been able to reset the Accord's computer a few days before emissions inspections and avoided replacing the converter twice so far. That Canadian guy would love me, I drive around knowing that my emissions system is messed up for over 2 years without fixing it.

[Cobrabill]

I'm resurrecting a 78 Datsun 620 pick-up for my wife to drive(instead of her 4.10 geared F-150)for ranch stuff & running around.Maaybe i'll e-mail him & tell him that.With any luck he'll stroke out.

[Ron61]

And what the politicians seem to ignore is that most of the working class can't afford a new car every two years. They don't have the tax payers money to use for them like the politicians do. I would like to have a new car but will never live long enough to afford one as the prices just keep getting farther and father out of reach of my disability pay. However with the way the law now works I should be able to pick whichever one I want, break into the dealers and take it, making sure that I cut my arm on the glass, then I can sue the dealer for more than enough to pay for the car.

Ron