Liberalism is a mental disorder.....

[Roscoe]

Republicans are significantly more likely than Democrats or independents to rate their mental health as excellent, according to data from the last four November Gallup Health and Healthcare polls. Fifty-eight percent of Republicans report having excellent mental health, compared to 43% of independents and 38% of Democrats. This relationship between party identification and reports of excellent mental health persists even within categories of income, age, gender, church attendance, and education.

The basic data—based on an aggregated sample of more than 4,000 interviews conducted since 2004 -- are straightforward.

The differences are quite significant, as can be seen. While Democrats are slightly less likely to report excellent mental health than are independents, the big distinctions in these data are the differences between Republicans and everyone else.

One could be quick to assume that these differences are based on the underlying demographic and socioeconomic patterns related to party identification in America today. A recent Gallup report (see “Strong Relationship Between Income and Mental Health” in Related Items) reviewed these mental health data more generally, and found that men, those with higher incomes, those with higher education levels, and whites are more likely than others to report excellent mental health. Some of these patterns describe characteristics of Republicans, of course.

But an analysis of the relationship between party identification and self-reported excellent mental health within various categories of age, gender, church attendance, income, education, and other variables shows that the basic pattern persists regardless of these characteristics. In other words, party identification appears to have an independent effect on mental health even when each of these is controlled for.

[Cobrabill]

Further proof liberals have a mental disorder:

Biden: Impeachment if Bush bombs Iran
By Adam Leech
aleech@seacoastonline.com
November 29, 2007 5:03 PM
PORTSMOUTH - Presidential hopeful Delaware Sen. Joe Biden stated unequivocally
that he will move to impeach President Bush if he bombs Iran without first gaining
congressional approval.

Biden spoke in front of a crowd of approximately 100 at a candidate forum held
Thursday at Seacoast Media Group. The forum focused on the Iraq war and foreign
policy. When an audience member expressed fear of a war with Iran, Biden said he
does not typically engage in threats, but had no qualms about issuing a direct warning to the Oval Office.

"The president has no authority to unilaterally attack Iran, and if he
does, as Foreign Relations Committee chairman, I will move to impeach," said
Biden, whose words were followed by a raucous applause from the local audience.

Biden said he is in the process of meeting with constitutional law experts to
prepare a legal memorandum saying as much and intends to send it to the president.

When local resident Joel Carp asked Biden why not impeach now, given what has already been done, Biden said it was a valid point, but might not be constitutionally valid and potentially counterproductive. A case for impeachment must have clear evidence, Biden said, and blame should be directed at the right parties.

"If you're going to impeach George Bush, you better impeach (Vice President
Dick) Cheney first," said Biden, again drawing applause.

Biden said the best deterrent to prevent pre-emptive military action in Iran
is to make it clear, even if it is at the end of his final term, action will be
taken against Bush to ensure "his legacy will be marred for all time."

Biden took shots at the Bush administration's idea to centralize government
in Baghdad and called his decentralized plan the only way to political settlement.The recent decline in violence in Iraq, which some have credited to the surge, is the result of the military doing its job.

President Bush, he said, has not done his job in using the relative peace to
find a political compromise as he promised.

"There's no evidence it has happened and no evidence it will happen,"
he said.

Throughout the forum, Biden stressed the need to improve foreign relations throughout the world and pointed to his 29-year resumé as proof that he can make that happen.

Biden joked about his low poll numbers, how the national media does not cover him and the lack of funds compared to the coffers of fellow hopefuls Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama.

"This is why I'm in New Hampshire and Iowa," he said. "It's
the last level playing field."

Biden went to the next appearance knowing he had at least one more vote. As the forum was coming to and end, Byrl Short stood up and announced his support.
"I came here an undecided voter," he said. "And you are the man."

[wtm442]

Joe Who???????????

[Scott S]

Impeachments start in the House, is Joe B looking to downsize his ego?

Scott S

[Paul F]

So from this we conclude .....

[cobra de capell]

Liberal Theory

Simply stated, the theory asserts that liberals are persons who lack the gene that allows humans to mentally process reality. Until the exact gene is located, it will remain a theory. However, until then, much empirical evidence of the liberals’ inability to process reality exists to support the theories premise.

Lenin accurately defined liberals as “useful idiots.” Today, America’s useful idiots are proving useful in bringing harm to America from within as well as from without.

Some time ago it occurred to me that liberals are not only merely wrong and incorrect, but they are absolutely and totally delusional and schizo. They are sick, sick, perverse people, instinctively and reflexively opposed to ALL that is right, good, and even commonsensical: race relations, economics, foreign policy, immigration, the efficacy of the UN, WMD's, etc. It’s Spooky!

[VRM]

Thomas Jefferson was a Liberal.

Steve

[Roscoe]

No VRM, he was a 'liberal'.

[VRM]

Ok, Roscoe,
I would love to hear what the difference is (besides the size of the first letter)between a 'Liberal' and a 'liberal'.

Personally, I suspect that people are confusing classical liberal (Jefferson, Madison) with neo liberal (Clinton, Gore), but I will reserve judgement until I read your definitions.

Steve

[Roscoe]

Didn't we go through this exercise on another thread months ago?

Roscoe

[VRM]

Roscoe,
I've certainly asked before...but I don't recall ever getting an honest answer. I may be mistaken, but if I did get an answer I don't remember what it was.

Steve

[cobra de capell]

Originally Posted by VRM

Roscoe,
I've certainly asked before...but I don't recall ever getting an honest answer. I may be mistaken, but if I did get an answer I don't remember what it was.

Steve

Is your issue that you are a liberal wanting Jefferson's company? Jefferson was a liberal but ceased to function as the liberal half of the American political dialogue and became instead the presiding presence who stood above all political conflicts and parties. Your would do well to follow in his footsteps.

Also - quoted from Robert Louis Stevenson:

"To hold the same views at forty as we held at twenty is to have been stupefied for a score of years, and take rank, not as a prophet, but as an unteachable brat, well birched and none the wiser."

I'm thinking that you are over 40, but have maintained the same view since probably High School or College. Get a grip - get a program - get a life.

In addition, Jefferson held deep-seated racist values throughout his life - even he had lessons to learn.

[VRM]

CdC,
Heres something you might be surprised to find out about me...
When I was 16 or 17 I was a member of Young Americans for Freedom, and I voted GOP for a number of years. I have since learned that the GOP is just as corrupt and anti-American as the current DNC. You would do well to learn that lesson yourself; I have hopes that even old dogs can still sometimes learn a new trick.

You seem to have trouble with anything more complicated than simple labels. Fine - I am probably best classified as a Libertarian.

Jefferson was not perfect. Neither were Churchill or Ike (a couple more of my favourites). That does not stop me from admiring their positive attributes.

Steve

[cobra de capell]

The GOP is anti-American - examples please?

There are positives to admire in both parties, being libertarian means nothing with no power attached and no viable candidates to vote for....it's the same as not voting, unless you end up supporting and voting for someone within the GOP or DNC party that can win.

I'd classify you as a full of yourself.

[BeanCounter]

Originally Posted by cobra de capell

I'd classify you as a full of yourself.

Well full of something anyway.

[VRM]

Originally Posted by cobra de capell

The GOP is anti-American - examples please?

There are positives to admire in both parties, being libertarian means nothing with no power attached and no viable candidates to vote for....it's the same as not voting, unless you end up supporting and voting for someone within the GOP or DNC party that can win.

I'd classify you as a full of yourself.

Ben Franklin wanted our national motto to be: Mind Your Own Business. Conservatives are always saying that this country was founded on certain moral principles. I would suspect that Franklin knows what this country was founded on better than people do today.
GOP being anti-American: Terry Schiavo and gay marriage.
Government interference in private matters should be kept to a minumum.

Bernie,
Better to be full of something than empty-headed...

Steve

[Wayne Maybury]

Maybe Republicans did better in the poll as 101% of them got to answer whereas only 99% of the Independants and Democrats were represented in the results.

It's a joke people, please don't start to explain math rounding to me.

Wayne

[cobra de capell]

Originally Posted by VRM

Ben Franklin wanted our national motto to be: Mind Your Own Business. Conservatives are always saying that this country was founded on certain moral principles. I would suspect that Franklin knows what this country was founded on better than people do today.
GOP being anti-American: Terry Schiavo and gay marriage.
Government interference in private matters should be kept to a minumum.

Bernie,
Better to be full of something than empty-headed...

Steve

Once again, slowly - The GOP is anti-American - examples please? Those cited do not qualify, at all.

[VRM]

Originally Posted by cobra de capell

Once again, slowly - The GOP is anti-American - examples please? Those cited do not qualify, at all.

They are perfect examples. They show the GOP trying to legislate decisions that should be a private matter between the people involved. That is a direct contradiction of the American ideal of limited government.

Steve

[Ron61]

I certainly agree with the ideals of limited Govt., but I fear the pendulum has swung to far the other way now. It is the people who are here to serve the Govt. and our opinion seems to mean nothing even when we vote.

Ron