McCain - Page 3

427 S/O · #1 (**permalink**) 02-13-2008, 04:04 AM

Steve, Ron Paul's ideas are great, but his delivery is just terrible!.

bomelia · #2 (**permalink**) 02-13-2008, 08:09 AM

Like immediate withdrawal from Iraq? Thats a great idea? He is a NUT!

Mike

427 S/O · #3 (**permalink**) 02-13-2008, 08:26 AM

Sorry, I should have been more precise, some of his idea's a great.

VRM · #4 (**permalink**) 02-13-2008, 09:32 AM

Perry,
I would agree with your comment. Paul is not the best public speaker - and he sometimes sounds shrill.

I would also suggest that both you and Mike read the Rand report done for the DoD. It addresses many issues regarding Iraq, and our actions in the ME.

Even the American Conservative magazine endorsed Paul as being the only true conservative. Of course, they also do not favour Bush very much. Big differences between Classical-Conservatives and Neo-Conservatives I guess. I would much rather vote for a Classical Conservative, but other than Ron Paul, none seem to be running.

Steve

bomelia · #5 (**permalink**) 02-13-2008, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by VRM

Perry,
I would much rather vote for a Classical Conservative, but other than Ron Paul, none seem to be running.

Steve

That is true.

Jamo · #6 (**permalink**) 02-13-2008, 01:40 PM

Ron Paul is a whiney, goofy looking little phuk who has brain freezes (we got out of Korea?). When he speaks, he does a disservice to otherwise logical and rational positions.

Mike, I think you could spot Steve a few hundred delegates...

VRM · #7 (**permalink**) 02-13-2008, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Jamo

Ron Paul is a whiney, goofy looking little phuk who has brain freezes (we got out of Korea?). When he speaks, he does a disservice to otherwise logical and rational positions.

So would you rather vote for a guy who get 80% for being right on the issues, and 10% for presenting them, or would you rather go for a guy who hits 20% on the issues, but makes you feel good about getting screwed?

Jamo · #8 (**permalink**) 02-13-2008, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by VRM

So would you rather vote for a guy who get 80% for being right on the issues, and 10% for presenting them, or would you rather go for a guy who hits 20% on the issues, but makes you feel good about getting screwed?

The latter...more likely to get at least a reach around.

bomelia · #9 (**permalink**) 02-13-2008, 08:28 PM

OK! Steve, I'll spot you 300 delegates. Ready to play?

Personally, I'll vote for the reach around. I need to get something worthwhile out of this process.

Mike

imagine2frolic · #10 (**permalink**) 02-13-2008, 02:47 PM

SO,

We are voting on politicians for their appeal, we have the big screen TVs, at least most do...not I, WHEN ARE THEY COMING FOR THE BOOKS?

It is coming down once again to the lesser of 2 evils.

GlynMeek · #11 (**permalink**) 02-13-2008, 08:32 PM

This forum interests me at a political level, in that my perception is that most Cobra owners appear to be conservative, right wing (redundant!) Republicans. Wonder why that is?

Personally, if Hillary wins for the Democrats I will vote for McCain, otherwise I will vote for Obama. I am one of the few on this forum who thought that a) Bill Clinton was probably the most intellectually gifted president we ever had and b) as a former Brit, I don't give a f*** who he was screwing...what the hell difference does THAT make to a hill of beans????? European politics has, for a long time, focussed on POLITICS, not on sexual pecadilloes (if I was the most powerful man in the world, the odd White House BJ would be a wonderful release of pressure)...but, Hillary is a WHOLE other matter...way too divisive

.

I think Obama is the ONLY one that can a) bring this country back together and b) restore our international prestige and credibility after 8 years of ABSOLUTE F***ING DEBACLE!!!!!

Glyn

bomelia · #12 (**permalink**) 02-13-2008, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by GlynMeek

This forum interests me at a political level, in that my perception is that most Cobra owners appear to be conservative, right wing (redundant!) Republicans. Wonder why that is?

Personally, if Hillary wins for the Democrats I will vote for McCain, otherwise I will vote for Obama. I am one of the few on this forum who thought that a) Bill Clinton was probably the most intellectually gifted president we ever had and b) as a former Brit, I don't give a f*** who he was screwing...what the hell difference does THAT make to a hill of beans????? European politics has, for a long time, focussed on POLITICS, not on sexual pecadilloes (if I was the most powerful man in the world, the odd White House BJ would be a wonderful release of pressure)...but, Hillary is a WHOLE other matter...way too divisive

.

I think Obama is the ONLY one that can a) bring this country back together and b) restore our international prestige and credibility after 8 years of ABSOLUTE F***ING DEBACLE!!!!!

Glyn

"I want to teach the world to sing, in three part harmony.... Coke, its the real thing!"

GlynMeek · #13 (**permalink**) 02-13-2008, 08:38 PM

ROFL...GREAT response...I really did laugh out loud!!!!!

BUT Bo, you're still wrong...sarcasm and all...

G

bomelia · #14 (**permalink**) 02-13-2008, 08:44 PM

G,

Take my hand. Drink the Coke. Sing. Sing louder.

Obama! Light of my life! Hope for change! Change for Hope! Hope!

Mike

(ps: You can call me Mike)

427sharpe · #15 (**permalink**) 02-13-2008, 08:50 PM

Obama is a blank slate with no history. I feel VERY uncomfortable voting for somebody with NO guideposts about his true beliefs except the stump speeches. McCain is an empty shirt to me...too liberal. BUT between the 2 I have to go McCain because I know his history and at least he has done enough to prove that he will stand up for what he thinks is right and not be a lapdog to whatever polling numbers are that day. In reality, I think the NUMBER ONE thing the next President will do is replace 3-4 justices on the Supreme Court. THAT is where Obama scares me! I have HAD it with the far left zealots in the court system and want to see judges appointed that INTERPRET the law as opposed to MAKE it under the table.

bomelia · #16 (**permalink**) 02-13-2008, 08:53 PM

I dunno. I got this sick picture in my head of McCain and Teddy doin the dirty. Never could imagine Bush doing that.

G, iffin you are buying, I'm drinkin.

Mike

GlynMeek · #17 (**permalink**) 02-13-2008, 08:46 PM

You know, the scariest thing Mike, is you and I really DO have a similar sense of humor and of the ridiculous...LOVE to have a beer sometime...

Glyn

GlynMeek · #18 (**permalink**) 02-13-2008, 08:53 PM

You REALLY think 3-4 supreme court justices are going to die/resign over the next 4 years???????? Unlikely!

bomelia · #19 (**permalink**) 02-13-2008, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by GlynMeek

You REALLY think 3-4 supreme court justices are going to die/resign over the next 4 years???????? Unlikely!

One could hope? Ok, thats sick. I appologise. But, one could hope? Dang! I did it again!!!

Mike

427sharpe · #20 (**permalink**) 02-13-2008, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by GlynMeek

You REALLY think 3-4 supreme court justices are going to die/resign over the next 4 years???????? Unlikely!

Hmmm;
Lets do a quick run down:
Alito is 56, Roberts is 53, Thomas 60 and Souter 69. They look viable for a long term unless Roberts has another heart attack.
Breyer is 70, Scalia 72 and both in good health apparently.
Kennedy is 72, has been having heart and kidney trouble.
Ginsburg is 75 and has openly discussed retirement as an option.
Stevens is 86 and will either retire or die soon.

Of this list for possible replacement I put (in order):
Stevens, Ginsburg, Kennedy and Roberts

I do not think Stevens nor Ginsburg will go if McCain wins. They will wait for a liberal President to open the chair. Kennedy and Roberts will go for health reasons if at all so the sitting President is irrevelant to them. I think at least 2 will be gone by the '12 elections and that amounts to a majority swing either way with the votes of the recent court. Hence...nix Obama for the reasons I stated earlier.