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[GlynMeek]

ah yes but...read my post about the PRODUCTION of hydrogen! GREAT and perfect fuel though it is, how are we going to produce enough of it?

Glyn

[Wayne Maybury]

Originally Posted by GlynMeek

ah yes but...read my post about the PRODUCTION of hydrogen! GREAT and perfect fuel though it is, how are we going to produce enough of it?

Glyn

Well if the government were to promote it the way they have promoted fuel ethanol, they would use the electricity that was generated by burning oil, to generate hydrogen and oxygen from water and tell us that they had found a way to reduce dependence on foreign oil. Of course they would also subsidize the whole industry.

Wayne

[Ron61]

I saw another write up in the paper this morning that now they have decided, they being the so called scientists that the environmentalists paid to say this, that using ethanol would contribute more to the green house gases than just burning the gasoline. Their explanation was that as the Govt. paid more and more for grain to make it, farmers would start plowing under more and more grass and brush bearing land and we would lose the oxygen that the plants generate. I didn't read the whole article as so much of this stuff is misleading and I am not an expert in the energy field. But neither are some of these so called environmentalists.

Ron

[Wayne Maybury]

Ron

Another major problem with corn based ethanol is the fertilizer required to grow corn. I believe that corn requires much more fertilizer than many other crops. At least part of the fertilizer is oil derived and of course there is the run off problems when it rains.

Corn prices have stabilized around $5 per bushel but with all of the corn now being planted, wheat prices literally gone through the roof. As a matter of fact, almost all grain prices are way up.

Wayne

[Ron61]

Wayne,

A few years ago there was a Sci Fi show that I liked called Sea Quest. It was kind of the ocean going version of Star Trek. In one episode they had made cows illegal all over the world because the cow piles caused methane gas. Except Australia refused to get rid of theirs and the supply officer had managed to get hold of a big chunk of hamburger and had made himself a huge cheese burger and the Captain caught him. After lecturing him for a minute or so and confiscating the cheeseburger the Captain threw it into the garbage disposal, but not before he ate about half of it.

As for the fertilizer, do what the Indians did originally. Plant a corn seed and bury a fish with it. Worked great for them.

Ron