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Old 03-07-2008, 06:25 AM
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Wes,

My mom believes that UFO's exist. While they might, I'm holding out for an actual piece of other-world alloy from saucer wreckage myself.

You can actually say that when you have me here as proof there is life from other planets.

Ron
Ron,

Perhaps your durability all these years is because of your exotic alloy.


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Wes,
What about the Philippines connection between Nichols and, possibly, Ramzi Yosef?
Roscoe
In my post above, the link Timothy McVeigh - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timothy...iracy_theories abreviated itself so as to not reveal that it refers directly to paragraphs "McVeigh#Conspiracy_theories". One of the paragraphs in particular refers to possible Islam radical ties:

"Jones and Israel suggest in Others Unknown that Terry Nichols had crossed paths with suspected Islamic terrorists during his frequent visits to the Philippines before the attacks. Nichols' father-in-law at the time was a Philippine police officer who owned an apartment building often rented to Arabic-speaking students with alleged terrorist connections. Former counter-terrorism adviser on the U.S. National Security Council Richard A. Clarke suggests that the improvement in Nichols's bomb-making techniques, along with telephone calls to the region upon return to the U.S, points to a possible link to Philippines-based Islamist terrorists in Cebú and the southern islands. These accounts are detailed in Richard A. Clarke's 2004 work Against All Enemies, an accounting of his public service which spanned across several administrations... ...In presiding over the trial, Judge Matsch rejected these arguments and did not allow them to be presented as a defense. There remains no credible documented evidence of Islamist or other foreign links to the Oklahoma City bombings."

If McVeigh went to the Philippines to just visit his father-in-law, one would think his wife would have acompanied him. Somewhere the Nichols/McVeigh team learned that they had to add boosters to the ANFO mix for an effective explosion and it could have come as late as over coffee with a ME student at the in-laws hotel. In the end though, I think McVeigh identified more with American Branch Davidians rather than Islamic beliefs. On the other hand, such evidence was not released if it was known, and that, in turn, could possibly be because CIA(?) would not want the extent of their intel revealed, i.e. classified. Speculation.

I imagine some Islamic radicals, somewhere, rejoiced over Oklahoma but very few, if any, knew it was coming. I think more radical American Christian sects probably cheered this one. Which was my whole point, that it isn't right to breed contempt and hate for all when a minority are the problem.

I might be a little sensitive since I am half German, by name, and a bit embarrassed that an entire nation could fall for suggestive Nazi media propoganda that all Jews were so bad they had to be extracted and even exterminated. That is what I feel is wrong in thinking, and promoting, that all Islamic are any lesser than ourselves. I also realise that this forum is a place to blow off a little steam, which is what Mike intended. Yet my fear is that divisive religious hate could grow in the nation that I love. It has gotten so that some of the news we receive is more like info-mercials than useful data.

Rats, I have to go to work. I think it is an ME World Bank plot. After all, they have most of our money or soon will have.


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