The state of California knows better than everyone else

[meat]

Originally Posted by PatBuckley

You obviously don't know what you are talking about

I always know what I'm talking about, which makes me markedly different than you.

I understand that you really, really, really want to pick a fight with me. Unfortunately, you're woefully unprepared for such an enterprise in both spirit and letter. Not just because you write angry, but also because you don't know your subject matter.

I appreciate your enthusiasm, and highly recommend that you channel it into a more positive and enlightened undertaking in the future. Good luck in all your endeavours!

Your pal,
Meat.

[PatBuckley]

What a POS.

[Jamo]

Gents...oh hell, nevermind.

I'll check back in a page or so.

[PatBuckley]

No problems, BB -

I notice that he didn't address the facts and tried to deflect the content of my post.

I don't waste time with the uninformed.

[tcrist]

Guys, come on now. I did not want to start an argument over this. Lets keep it clean, Please?

Terry

[PatBuckley]

OK Terry - will do.

[meat]

Originally Posted by Jamo

Gents...oh hell, nevermind.

I'll check back in a page or so.

Dearest Jamo,

Yours is a thankless vocation - much like herding kindergartners or cats - and is fraught with great peril (sort of like trying to go out the south, west or east gates ... which can be closely guarded, if you follow certain traditions).

Please accept this as token of my appreciation for all your hard work:

Combat pay should be part and parcel of your job.

Your pal,
Meat.

[AMF]

Once again, our lawmakers fail us. Their intent is good, but their execution sucks.

If they REALLY wanted to help the environment and the consumer, then they should start an oil analysis program.

The military uses an oil analysis program where they test a sample of the oil to determine if it needs to be changed or not. This can also be a preventative measure for diagnostics such as metal shavings in the oil, water in the oil or other items that indicate serious engine troubles.

The other point that I would make is that MANY times, you need not change the oil, just the filter. If you drive your car from LA to NYC, the oil is fairly clean and healthy, and even though you've put 3k+ miles on the oil and filter, it's highway mileage, rather than stop and go city mileage and so it's a perfect example of where a simple filter change is sufficient.

The most effective way to go about this would be to provide a state (or private) oil analysis center where you can get gravimetric analysis of your oil done. THEN you'd have to protect such an agency again lawsuits (lord knows how many bloodsucking kalifornia lawyers would be chomping at the bit to sue such a place because it caused them to run their car off a bridge or something).

And I'll close by saying that anyone who would listen to Jiffy Lube on when to change their oil oughta give me a call. I have tons of ocean front property in North Dakota to sell you, along with some great stock parts from a mustang GT.

[tcrist]

My grandfather never changed his oil, just the filter. He had a remote oil filter put on that used a roll of toliet paper. Bought the cheapest tp he could find too. His last car had around 300K on it. It smoked but it still ran fairly good.

Terry