Hydrogen Power Via Filter

imagine2frolic · #1 (**permalink**) 07-10-2008, 08:29 AM

I watched a clip today on Yahoo about this filter. Wouldn't it be FANTASTIC if it could be that simple? Sorry, but I can't find it again

imagine2frolic · #2 (**permalink**) 07-10-2008, 08:32 AM

Okay it was on the BBC, and titled Running on home-brewed hydrogen

427 S/O · #3 (**permalink**) 07-10-2008, 11:57 AM

Is this it?, I would like to see it as well.......

http://www.patentstorm.us/patents/53...scription.html

Ron61 · #4 (**permalink**) 07-10-2008, 12:04 PM

John,

Can you find that clip and post it or the URL to it as I also would like to see it. I read the things that were in Perry's post and some of them sound interesting.

Ron

imagine2frolic · #5 (**permalink**) 07-10-2008, 01:39 PM

This product looked about as thick as 5 sheets of paper, 6x6 inches. It was a filter that seperated the hydrogen from the water. The video had no link, or url. Maybe google.... BBC runnning on home-brew hydrogen.... and maybe someone else can post it. Also it is something brand new, and was beingdeveloped for 6 years.

imagine2frolic · #6 (**permalink**) 07-10-2008, 01:40 PM

http://news.yahoo.com/i/2917

Sometimes I think I am REALLY smart, and then things like this humble me....LOLOLOLOLOL

427 S/O · #7 (**permalink**) 07-10-2008, 03:10 PM

That's very interesting, sure would like some more details?. The cow thing was kinda weird but hey!, it might work?. I read a short story about a farmer in N.C. that fermented chicken $hit and fresh cut grass for methane, he ran all his farm equipment on it.

imagine2frolic · #8 (**permalink**) 07-10-2008, 03:27 PM

chicken $hit, grass? That's American ingenuity working at it's best....lolololololololol

bomelia · #9 (**permalink**) 07-10-2008, 08:25 PM

Well, that was NOT very informative.

Hydrogen does not exist freely in "pools" waiting to be found. It takes energy to free hydrogen from water... and get this: the amount of energy released from hydrogen combustion is equal to the electric energy required to create it minus inefficinecies (research Gibbs Free Energy). Hydogen at its best, currently, is an energy storage material, a battery if you will. Until some catalytic process is discovered that automatically splits water without large input energies, this will remain an elusive dream.

Now, I will say this. Using nuclear energy and hydro energy as a means to create hydrogen from water makes enormous sense to me. Hrdro is the best! It then remains to create the infrastructure to distribute it. And not only for internal combustion, which may make very little sense, but in fuel cells to run electric motors. That is how I believe this will turn out.

All it will take is a visionary congress and president. Yeah, right. We can't even build a rocket to go to the moon anymore. Think I am kidding??

Mike

John S Peterson · #10 (**permalink**) 07-10-2008, 10:44 PM

You always have to give to get...........Auto manufacturers have had the 411 on this stuff for a long time, but until Feds make it manditory like they did for seat belts, catalytic converters etc,etc, you will only see and hear about it in bits and pieces.....easy for the public to forget that way. You wont see a hydrogen powered vehicle for retail sale until at least 2020. They have the technology.........but remember the daily price of crude oil is more important than anything. Efficiency is a no-no, it usually drops the price of crude and that means NO money

It happend already with the EV GM built everyone loved them, but they were too good and that was bad........All you have to do no is go buy a Tornado, use magnets on your fuel line, get some special friction reducing additive, and all the other gauranteed things you see on TV and you should get about a 50% improvment in mileage and power

bomelia · #11 (**permalink**) 07-11-2008, 07:33 AM

Did you do all of those things? And if so, did it work?

Mike

imagine2frolic · #12 (**permalink**) 07-11-2008, 08:06 AM

It's in print it must have worked!

Joe Wicked · #13 (**permalink**) 07-11-2008, 09:34 AM

I think the best one that I have ever seen was an infomercial for a holographic sticker that you place on your gas tank. "It uses hologram and frequency technology to align the gas atoms for a more efficient burn and thereby getting improved gas mileage." I still want to know what exactly is frequency technology and how is a Hologram going to work when you tuck it away from sources of light? I know a guy who used to fall for all of these items and actually bought the tornado among others. In some cases he actually got worse mileage. I got to see the package for the Tornado and I showed him how it was a scam. It stated that the results are guaranteed only if you follow the enclosed installation and DRIVING instructions. In the driving instructions it stated that you cannot rev your engine beyond 2K RPMs (shift before you hit 2K) never press the gas pedal more than 1/3 of maximum distance, and never let your car idle for more than 2 min among other things. I showed him how this is what is getting your gas mileage savings and not the Tornado. Making the air swirl in your intake does nothing.

Ron61 · #14 (**permalink**) 07-11-2008, 09:41 AM

Years ago a person here ordered one of those gadgets from J.C. Whitney that took the place of a spacer under the carb and had a small spinning wheel in each hole. This was supposed to make the gas more like a vapor or something and increase mileage by a big amount. About three weeks later he was taking his engine apart as two of the darn spinners fell off and went down into the cylinders. If all of this junk worked, we could use several of them at once and drain the extra gas we would save out of our tanks as they would soon be overflowing.

Ron