Finally,the presidential candidates summarized

[Cobrabill]

I know that some of you don't like to read long drawn out missives...

so here's the executive summary on experience and qualifications .........





Congress Military



John McCain 26 Years 22 Years



Barack Obama 143 Days 0





Summary Concluded!

[Excaliber]

You want to elect a guy steeped in military thinking and schooled in the art of war? That seems to have worked out well in many other countries where 'Generals' rise to the presidency and use the countries resources to conduct more war. Why? Because thats what people steeped in military training do, go to war! No thanks, we don't need another military fanatic to run/ruin the country.

[VRM]

I understand that Ike was pretty popular.

And has for McCain - he has had a lot of experience getting corrupted by the Washington/military machine that Obama has not had.

Bush was an 'experienced' leader when he got elected - not a huge endorsement for experience these days... And that is why a lot of people are thinking that Obama will be a breath of fresh air.

[Cobrabill]

Originally Posted by Excaliber

You want to elect a guy steeped in military thinking and schooled in the art of war? That seems to have worked out well in many other countries where 'Generals' rise to the presidency and use the countries resources to conduct more war. Why? Because thats what people steeped in military training do, go to war! No thanks, we don't need another military fanatic to run/ruin the country.

Asoslutely,there's plenty more people who need killing in this world.And we need someone who has the balls to do it.Not some liberal pacifist pu$$y.

Your remark sounds just as stupid now as it would have on Dec 8th 1941.

[Bill Bess]

So, you want a young socialist that hates white people and doesn't have any experience in anything.
Perhaps a guy that is all about Hollywood and looking presidential, and then gets mad if anyone critizes him and responds in a childish way using race to point out he is different. A guy that has demonstrated that he supports the worst examples of folks like Rev. Wright and Ludicrous...real winners...WOW!
Well, I really don't want higher taxes and re-distribution of any hardworking Americans wealth. I also like the idea that we Americans can still kick evreyones asses and out think the rest of the world on all levels. I guess McCane is a better choice if you want this Country to be around for a few more hundred years, and yes he understands these long held principles and the conservative thinking.
Cranky Bill

[Excaliber]

Obama 'hates white people'? Theres a classic paranoid racist comment.

[J. T. Toad]

When Obama refers to any individual as a "typical white person"... would I be received the same if a stated any individual was a "typical black person"?

It appears by your same logic, Obama is just a racist.

Just ask that "racist" John Rocker.

[VRM]

Bill,
I'm not a big fan of Obama or McCain. However, Obamas tax plan will be better for most families that make under $250K. That is more than 95% of the US.

[J. T. Toad]

PFFFFFFTTTTT!!!!!!

and do you think the government has proven itself as a good steward of money management skills in fiscal responsibility?

Where will this new windfall of tax revenue be spent?

[Cobrabill]

Originally Posted by VRM

Bill,
I'm not a big fan of Obama or McCain. However, Obamas tax plan will be better for most families that make under $250K. That is more than 95% of the US.

No liberal's tax plan is good for anyone.

[cobra de capell]

Originally Posted by VRM

Bill,
I'm not a big fan of Obama or McCain. However, Obamas tax plan will be better for most families that make under $250K. That is more than 95% of the US.

What are you smoking?

Hope and change ain’t cheap, especially if you let a Marxist set the price. I cannot even imagine what his capital gain/dividend tax increases, which are even more draconian, will do to the stock market. Hopefully enough high-income professionals will realize that this is not all fun and games, but it will hit them like a ton of bricks. They can’t all be like Warren Buffett who after a lifetime of structuring everything around paying low taxes complains he is taxed at a lower rate than his secretary. Obama is a clever and dangerous character, he's structuring his definition of “rich” so that enough of the “poor” can salivate at the thought of stealing from them and vote Obama in - you are probably one of the salivators.

Some BO quotes......

"We're going to reshape America in a way that is less mean-spirited and more generous."

"That’s just how white folks will do you."

"We've got to make sure that people who have more money help the people who have less money."

"You go into some of these small towns in Pennsylvania, and like a lot of small towns in the Midwest, the jobs have been gone now for 25 years and nothing's replaced them. And they fell through the Clinton administration, and the Bush administration, and each successive administration has said that somehow these communities are gonna regenerate and they have not. And it's not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations."

"I am absolutely certain that generations from now, we will be able to look back and tell our children that this was the moment when we began to provide care for the sick and good jobs to the jobless; this was the moment when the rise of the oceans began to slow and our planet began to heal."

"The truth is, in order to get things like universal health care and a revamped education system, then someone is going to have to give up a piece of their pie so that someone else can have more."
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There is simply not sufficient people or families making $250K and up to pay for all of BO's programs - you had better hold onto your wallet....according to moneycentral - 75% of the households in the U.S. do not make $57,343 a year.

Given your thought procss, wouldn't you be happier is Venezula?

Also, some input from Larry Kudlow.....

"The Obama spend-o-meter is now up around $800 billion. And tax hikes on the rich won’t pay for it. It’s the middle class that will ultimately shoulder this fiscal burden in terms of higher taxes and lower growth.

This isn’t free enterprise. It’s old-fashioned-liberal tax, spend, and regulate. It’s plain ol’ big government. The only people who will benefit are the central planners in Washington.

Obama would like voters to believe that he’s the second coming of JFK. But with his unbelievable spending and new-government-agency proposals he’s looking more and more like Jimmy Carter. His is a “Grow the Government Bureaucracy Plan,” and it’s totally at odds with investment and business.

Obama says he wants U.S. corporations to stop “shipping jobs overseas” and bring their cash back home. But if he really wanted U.S. companies to keep more of their profits in the states he’d be calling for a reduction in the corporate tax rate. Why isn’t he demanding an end to the double-taxation of corporate earnings? It’s simple: He wants higher taxes, too.

The Wall Street Journal’s Steve Moore has done the math on Obama’s tax plan. He says it will add up to a 39.6 percent personal income tax, a 52.2 percent combined income and payroll tax, a 28 percent capital-gains tax, a 39.6 percent dividends tax, and a 55 percent estate tax.

Not only is Obama the big-spending candidate, he’s also the very-high-tax candidate. And what he wants to tax is capital."

[J. T. Toad]

Read this first, before the following;

The following statement is facetious.

Oh CDC, why do you always take quotes out of context?

[cobra de capell]

Originally Posted by J. T. Toad

Read this first, before the following;

The following statement is facetious.

Oh CDC, why do you always take quotes out of context?

Which quote are you referring to, Toad?

Vote McCain - McCain - For those of us who already have a Messiah.

[VRM]

Originally Posted by cobra de capell

There is simply not sufficient people or families making $250K and up to pay for all of BO's programs - you had better hold onto your wallet....according to moneycentral - 75% of the households in the U.S. do not make $57,343 a year.

Given your thought procss, wouldn't you be happier is Venezula?

Also, some input from Larry Kudlow.....

"The Obama spend-o-meter is now up around $800 billion. And tax hikes on the rich won’t pay for it. It’s the middle class that will ultimately shoulder this fiscal burden in terms of higher taxes and lower growth.

This isn’t free enterprise. It’s old-fashioned-liberal tax, spend, and regulate. It’s plain ol’ big government. The only people who will benefit are the central planners in Washington.

Obama would like voters to believe that he’s the second coming of JFK. But with his unbelievable spending and new-government-agency proposals he’s looking more and more like Jimmy Carter. His is a “Grow the Government Bureaucracy Plan,” and it’s totally at odds with investment and business.

Obama says he wants U.S. corporations to stop “shipping jobs overseas” and bring their cash back home. But if he really wanted U.S. companies to keep more of their profits in the states he’d be calling for a reduction in the corporate tax rate. Why isn’t he demanding an end to the double-taxation of corporate earnings? It’s simple: He wants higher taxes, too.

The Wall Street Journal’s Steve Moore has done the math on Obama’s tax plan. He says it will add up to a 39.6 percent personal income tax, a 52.2 percent combined income and payroll tax, a 28 percent capital-gains tax, a 39.6 percent dividends tax, and a 55 percent estate tax.

Not only is Obama the big-spending candidate, he’s also the very-high-tax candidate. And what he wants to tax is capital."

The majority of families making under 250K would get a tax cut under Obamas tax plan. Some of those over 250K would also get a tax cut, some would stay the same, and most would go up.

McCains tax plan would also cut taxes for those under 250K, but not by anywhere near as much as Obamas plan. McCains plan would cut more taxes for those over 250K.

Putting more money back in peoples pockets is a good thing. I would rather put money back in the pockets of 95% than 5%. If 5% of the country goes and buys a Ford GT it is not going to be as big a boost to the economy as 95 % of the country going and buying a Focus. And the the 5% would get additional money from profits from stocks of companies doing well by selling the Focus to that 95%. It also can't be completely one sided, though, and Obama and McCain are two opposite ends. Both of their plans would add trillions to the deficit in order to pay for their respective pet projects.

Steve

[Excaliber]

Let me check the calendar,,, nope, it aint 1941, no need to start World War III.

[Cobrabill]

Originally Posted by Excaliber

Let me check the calendar,,, nope, it aint 1941, no need to start World War III.

WWIII will be against the Muslims.And this is the pre-lude to it.

Muslims are more of a threat to the ENTIRE world than Hitler,Mussolini,Hirohito,Pol pot,Lenin,Stalin and Marx all rolled together.

[VRM]

Originally Posted by Cobrabill

WWIII will be against the Muslims.And this is the pre-lude to it.

Muslims are more of a threat to the ENTIRE world than Hitler,Mussolini,Hirohito,Pol pot,Lenin,Stalin and Marx all rolled together.

You obviously don't know any. Most of them are nowhere near as racist as you are.

Steve

[Excaliber]

I agree Cobrabill, it's a serious problem, I'm not convinced a hot head like McCain is the answer. Cooler heads should prevail.

[J. T. Toad]

Originally Posted by Excaliber

I agree Cobrabill, it's a serious problem, I'm not convinced a hot head like McCain is the answer. Cooler heads should prevail.

Vote Nader then.

[Cobrabill]

[quote=Excaliber;867324]I agree Cobrabill, QUOTE]
Geez,Ernie-how many years have we been bantering back & forth and you still call me by my "formal"name?

JT-a vote for Nader is a vote for Obama.And Nader is the biggest wack job of them all.