This is your liberal democrats----sad-----

[GlynMeek]

Originally Posted by turnpike boy

To Poland! - all the while seeking opportunities and enabling / providing same to the Poles who chafe beneath socialist collars. The Far Left, in contrast, seek nothing but their own agenda, and all within their own borders, to the utter and absolute exclusion of any who would dare contradict their views.

In other words, the Far Left seeks what the Poles have. Why not send the Far Left to Poland, where all can live in despair? The Far Right would have no argument with that.

As to morality, well.....it is what you find it to be. Personally, I find genuine personal liberty to be far more valuable than contrived social engineering.

oh dear, yet another one that went over your head! The "invading Poland" comment was a reference to WWII and the "right wing" nazis who (as you should recall!!) STARTED it all by "invading Poland". Nothing to do with the latterday socialized state of the country. Sorry, TP, I shall try and avoid historical references in future posts!

Glyn

[turnpike boy]

Originally Posted by GlynMeek

oh dear, yet another one that went over your head! Sorry, TP, I shall try and avoid historical references in future posts!

Glyn

No apology necessary, PW. It would, on the other hand, be easier to decipher your prose if it were consistent....the original post offered out a possibility, which was somehow supposed to be interpreted as history. Given the context of current discussions, for some reason I cleave to the present.

Huh....go figure

[FWB]

german nazi party rightists? not even close....
nazi party otherwise known as the national socialist party. ideology shared
with the communists who i am sure all will agree are not right wing by any
stretch of the imagination.
wwII nazi party not to be confused with modern day neo nazi's.

[turnpike boy]

Originally Posted by FWB

german nazi party rightists? not even close....
nazi party otherwise known as the national socialist party. ideology shared
with the communists who i am sure all will agree are not right wing by any
stretch of the imagination.
wwII nazi party not to be confused with modern day neo nazi's.

We-ee-ee-lll, THANK YOU F.W! Not being a student of history (I'm an engineer...mebbe just a little less boring than history), it would seem our expatriate member lobbed a softball. Oops.

What says you, Glyn? Apart from your contextual gaffs ("... that the "Far Left" are a group of completely antisocial nutcases, but the "Far Right" would invade Poland.....") implying the present, it would seem your factual bulwark has something of a hole in it as well. Perhaps.

No matter. I'm still delighted to see - sarcasm dismissed - that you intend to vote for the proletariat candidate in lieu of the syncophantic candidate. Proud of you, old sot!

[FWB]

oh dont thank me as a history buff, thank me as a 4.0 mechanical engineer,
physics for science and engineering, and a owner of a successful manufacturing facility for 12 years now. only got a 4.0 sorry i dont live up to your lofty expectations

[turnpike boy]

You certainly live up to MY expectations - and being a Mech, even better impressed. Us lowly civil engrs just can't seem to focus on history....keep building the same old stuff.

p.s. - no 4.0 here; left that to wife and kids.

[FWB]

sorry its a touchy subject for me.....grandfather had to put up with govt
watching him thru wwII even though he served in WWI, from mail being opened
to strange cars out front. i starved to get thru college and watched others get
a free education and throw it away. being a white male i have everything handed to me and all, you know

[VRM]

Originally Posted by FWB

german nazi party rightists? not even close....
nazi party otherwise known as the national socialist party. ideology shared
with the communists who i am sure all will agree are not right wing by any
stretch of the imagination.
wwII nazi party not to be confused with modern day neo nazi's.

Ok, I AM a history buff, and this is mostly wrong.
Hitlers Nazi party and Mussolinis PNF were primarily fascist (very far right, but not 100% statist). They shared very little ideology with communists, and part of the NAZIs raison d'etre was to defend Germany from communism.

Steve