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Also the head of the investigation is a democrat that is involved heavily with the Obama campaign in Alaska.
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Also the head of the investigation is a democrat that is involved heavily with the Obama campaign in Alaska.
That would explain a lot.
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Shades of the current Bush administration here...

The Republican campaign has stated Palin will not cooperate further with the 'Trooper Gate' investigation because it's been hijacked by the Democrats. No word yet on wether her husband will fight the subpoena he has been given to force his cooperation.

Trooper Gate is, in a nutshell:
"Public Safety Commissioner Walt Monegan was fired because of insubordination on budget issues -- not because he refused to fire a state trooper who had divorced Palin's sister."

Now I'm NOT posting this to be 'negative' this is in fact 'breaking news' and goes to the heart of the problem I personally have with the current administration. It leaves this author wondering if were not seeing excatly the same kind of behaviour now being played out by the McCain camp. Is THIS what the future administration will do when an investigation is launched? Deny, obfusicate, delay, pardon, refuse to answer or cooperate? Always for a dam good reason of course, in THEIR mind!

Doesn't look good for the McC camp, no matter how you slice it, no matter how you justify it. It's hide and seek all over again, just like the last 8 years have been. I think strategically this is a very bad move by the Republicans that will result in a substantial public backlash. Of course they must know that, the risk there taking. Which leads one to ask, "What are they hiding that would be worse than a bad public relations move?" Somethings going on there trying to cover up...
You are a huge buggerin' wanker. As if anyone here would consider your input as to the impact of anything on McCain-Palin.

As folks find out just what the nature of Mr. Wooten’s offenses were - tasering an 11 year-old, drinking while on duty in his cruiser, illegally killing game, threatening the life of his father-in-law, to name just a few, people wonder what the fuss is about Gov. Palin.

If the Dems in the Alaska legislature try to tar Gov. Palin with this, it’ll once again backfire on the Dems, including Snob-ama.

Most folks don’t like “police” who abuse their powers and physically violate innocent people. The question folks making comments over at the CNN link are asking is why the pig Wooten is still an Alaska State Trooper.

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http://media.adn.com/smedia/2008/07/...ffiliate.7.pdf
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Yeah, but what about Palin's tanning bed????

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http://wizbangblog.com/content/2008/...ate-firing.php

The brother-in-law trooper was far from just "going through a messy divorce" as those in the media continually describe. He tasered his stepson, threatened Palin's family, etc. and was a trooper with a badge and a gun, so it would not have been unreasonable for her to want him fired.

I wonder what the media would say if she didn't have him fired??? HMMMmmmmm

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That's all great but the latest news is she has disclosed the emails and other documentation regarding this. To me, it appears to be a witch hunt by a democratic prosecutor, et al.

Let's face facts: The dems are truly scared of her and are doing everything they can to crush her. There have been dozens of fake stories and rumors about her.

Why don't we talk about William Ayers and Bernadette Dorn?

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That's all great but the latest news is she has disclosed the emails and other documentation regarding this. To me, it appears to be a witch hunt by a democratic prosecutor, et al.

Let's face facts: The dems are truly scared of her and are doing everything they can to crush her. There have been dozens of fake stories and rumors about her.

Why don't we talk about William Ayers and Bernadette Dorn?

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As I said, she released the documentation either late yesterday or today. But if you are looking for a coverup then check out this:

http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/..._years_co.html

Former Weatherman and admitted terrorist William Ayers (whom Obama described in the Philadelphia debate as merely a "neighbor") was head of the operating arm of the CAC, working with Obama on distributing scores of millions of dollars to grantees in the wards of the city, and you have a topic that the Obama campaign wishes to avoid at all costs.

It took Stanly Kurtz, of National Review Online to ask permission to see the files held by the publicly-funded University of Illinois Chicago (UIC). After initially agreeing, The Richard J. Daley Library withdrew permission. Kurtz writes:

"The Special Collections section of the Richard J. Daley Library agreed to let me read them, but just before I boarded my flight to Chicago, the top library officials mysteriously intervened to bar access. Circumstances strongly suggest the likelihood that Bill Ayers himself may have played a pivotal role in this denial. Ayers has long taught at UIC, where the Chicago Annenberg Challenge offices were housed, rent-free. Ayers likely arranged for the files of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge to be housed in the UIC library, and may well have been consulted during my unsuccessful struggle to gain access to the documents."
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I still don't understand. The whole premise of this thread was that Palin did not disclose documentation. She HAS disclosed it. So what are we talking about???? The coverup accusation is closed.

The point I am making is that the media has not taken the same stance on the democratic side. The imbalance is blinding. The silence is deafening.

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Roscoe,

The media has never taken a fair stance on anything. I agree with you, that since she has disclosed what they wanted, what are we still talking about? You can bet the Democrats cover ups won't be aired.

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OK...What about THIS?

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It is a nice red X in a small box. Are you covering up something?

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It is a nice red X in a small box. Are you covering up something?

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Where is the liberal media on the subject of Chucky BOY one of there tops liberal friends not paying tax's on his Dominican homes or ta'x on the sale of his property. AND he is the CHAIRMAN of the tax committe and he claims ignorance.
Sarah is chased down on every little thing, BUT a major mess of CHARLIES and you see nothing on nightly news.
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Joeg,

I was wondering the same thing. Our newspaper, biased as all the rest, had a very small article about that and Princess Pelosi didn't think he should be removed from his high paying job nor have to even pay any penalties or interest on that income that he just didn't declare. If any of us did that we would be penalized and probably charged double the taxes as well as having a fraud charge against us. But since he is Chairman of the Tax Committee and a Democrat, the news media won't even mention it.

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And let's not forget he used his taser on his 10 year old step son.

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Ernie,

Or, are you suggesting that certain politicians, and their spouse/family, are above the law and can simply ignore said subpoenas?

Where is the liberal media on the subject of Chucky BOY one of there top liberal friends not paying tax's on his Dominican homes or ta'x on the sale of his property. AND he is the CHAIRMAN of the tax committe and he claims ignorance.

Since he hasn't had to pay any penalties, interest, nor has there been any media frenzy about this, I would say that certain politicians are above the law and he makes the law for all of us taxpayers, you included. Why no investigation or penalties for this? It certainly is not legal for him to do this.

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I tried to post the pardons and commutations by Bush but it was over the 10,000 text limit. Partial list of pardons only...

1. James Leon Adams (1965*selling firearms to out of state residents and falsifying firearms records)[4]
2. Kristan Diane Bullock Akins (1990*Embezzlement by a bank employee)[5]
3. Charles James Allen (1979*conspiracy to defraud the United States. A former federal employee, Allen was convicted for approving payments to James Hilles Associates Inc., a Virginia firm, for office supplies that were never delivered. In return, Allen received car parts, a radio, a freezer and other gifts from the firm. Pardoned*December 21,*2006)
4. Tony Dale Ashworth (1989*unlawful transfer of a firearm)[4]
5. Alan Dale Austin (1987*misapplication of mortgage funds)[6]
6. William L. Baker (1980*falsifying records)[1]
7. William Sidney Baldwin Sr. (1981*conspiracy to possess marijuana. Pardoned*December 21,*2006)
8. Timothy Evans Barfield (1989*aiding and abetting false statements on a Small Business Administration loan application. Pardoned*December 21,*2006)
9. Bruce Louis Bartos (1987*transportation of a*machine gun*in foreign commerce)[7]
10. George Francis Bauckham (1958*unlawful detention or delay of the mail by a postal employee)[1]
11. David Thomas Billmyer (1978*military conviction for making a false claim)[8]
12. James Allen Bodendieck, Sr. (1959*interstate transportation of a stolen vehicle)[9]
13. Clyde Philip Boudreaux (1975*military conviction for borrowing money from enlisted men, accepting a noninterest-bearing loan from a government contractor and signing and swearing to a false affidavit. Pardoned*December 21,*2006)
14. Gene Armand Bridger (1963*Conspiracy to commit mail fraud, and mail fraud)[10]
15. Marie Georgette Ginette Briere (1982*possession of cocaine with intent to distribute)
16. Kenneth Charles Britt (1998*conspiracy to violate fish and wildlife laws)[1]
17. Jeffrey James Bruce (1994*possession of stolen mail)[9]
18. Charles Wayne Bryant (1962*theft of U.S. mail matter by employee)[9]
19. William Bruce Butt (1990*bank embezzlement))[1]
20. Carl E. Cantrell (1967*moonshining)[11]
21. Charles Winston Carter (1964*conspiracy*to steal government property)[11]
22. Meredith Elizabeth Casares (1989*embezzlement*of*US Postal Service*funds)[12]
23. Ronald William Cauley (1980*Misapplication of bank funds by an employee)[5]
24. Cathryn Iline Clasen-Gage (1992*Misprision of a felony)[10]
25. Thomas Kimble Collinsworth (1989*Receipt of a stolen motor vehicle that had been transported in interstate commerce)[10]
26. Charles Russell Cooper (1959*bootlegging)*[6]
27. Anthony John Curreri (1976*Mail fraud)*[13]
28. Morris F. Cranmer, Jr. (1988*Making materially false statements to a federally-insured institution)[10]
29. Dale C. Critz, Jr. (1989*making a false statement)
30. William Charles Davis (1983*income tax*evasion)[8]
31. Randall Leece Deal (1960*and*1964*liquor laws)[4]
32. Paul Jude Donnici (September 23,*1993) Use of a telephone in the transmission of wagering information*[14]
33. William Henry Eagle (1972*moonshining)[4]
34. Mark Alan Eberwine (1985*conspiracy to defraud the United States by impeding, impairing, and obstructing the assessment of taxes by the Internal Revenue Service and making false declarations to the grand jury. Pardoned*December 21,*2006)
35. Rusty Lawrence Elliott (1991*Making counterfeit Federal Reserve notes)[10]
36. Robert Carter Eversole (1984*theft)[4]
37. Gerald Douglas Ficke (1992*money laundering)[12]
38. Harper James Finucan (1980*marijuana*possession*with intent to distribute)[11]
39. Kenneth Clifford Foner (1991*bank fraud)[4]
40. Anthony Americo Franchi (1983*tax evasion)
41. Colin Earl Francis (1993*accepting a kickback of about $9,000 for helping a vendor for United Technologies Corp.'s Sikorsky Aircraft division, where Francis worked at the time, land a contract. Pardoned*December 21,*2006)
42. Victoria Diane Frost (1994*conspiracy to possess)[4]
43. William Grover Frye (1968*AWOL and*1973*sale of stolen car)[4]
44. Joseph Daniel Gavin (1979*military*insubordination, drunkenness, threats, and other offenses)*[6]
45. George Glenn (1956*accepting $50 bribe while in military)
46. Samuel Wattie Guerry (1984*food stamp*fraud)[14]
47. Adam Wade Graham (1992*Conspiracy to deliver 10 or more grams of LSD)[10]
48. Charles E. Hamilton (1989*mail fraud)[14]
49. Stanley Bernard Hamilton*1990*(money order fraud)[4]
50. Brianna Lea Haney (1991*failure to report monetary instruments)[7]
51. George Thomas Harley (1984*aiding and abetting the distribution of cocaine. Pardoned*December 21,*2006)
52. Rufus Edward Harris (1963*Possession and selling tax-unpaid whiskey)[10]
53. Jesse Ray Harvey (1990*Property damage by use of explosives and destruction of an energy facility)[10]
54. David Custer Heaston (1988*false statement)[7]
55. Melodie Jean Hebert (1984*defrauding U.S. with false claims)[4]
56. Patricia Ann Hultman (1985*conspiracy to possess with intent to distribute and to distribute cocaine and other controlled substances. Pardoned*December 21,*2006)
57. Bobby Frank Kay Sr. (1959*moonshining)[11]
58. James Ernest Kinard, Jr. (1984*fraudulent firearms dealer records)[4]
59. Richard Ardell Krueger (1979*mail fraud and*1980*and false statement on a loan application)[8]
60. Devin Timothy Kruse (1979*AWOL from Coast Guard)[4]
61. Margaret Ann Leggett (1981*false claims)
62. Raul Marin (1982*failure to appear in court)*[6]
63. Larry Paul Lenius (1989*Conspiracy to distribute cocaine)[10]
64. Larry Lee Lopez (1985*Conspiracy to import marijuana)[10]
65. Bobbie Archie Maxwell (1962*Mailing a threatening letter)[10]
66. David B. McCall, Jr. (1997*False entry in bank books and aiding and abetting)[15]
67. Melvin L. McKee (1982*conspiracy to make false statements on a loan application)[11]
68. Charles McKinley, (1950*moonshining)[11]
69. Michael Mark McLaughlin (1983*mail fraud and conspiracy)[8]
70. Craven Wilford McLemore (1983*Conspiracy to defraud the United States and Caddo County)*[13]
71. Denise Bitters Mendelkow (1981*Embezzlement by a bank employee)[10]
72. Michael Robert Moelter (1988*illegal gambling business)[7]
73. Billie Curtis Moore (1977*income tax evasion)[8]
74. Richard Arthur Morse (1963*transportation of a stolen vehicle)[12]
75. Gerard Murphy (1972*car theft)[4]
76. Kenneth Lynn Norris (1993*unlawful disposal of*hazardous waste)[14]
77. Joseph Mathew Novak (1994*possession and transfer of an illegal weapon)[4]
78. Eric William Olson (1984*military conviction for conspiracy to possess with intent to distribute, possession with intent to distribute, possession, and use of hashish. PardonedDecember 21,*2006)
79. Donald Lee Pendergrass (1964*armed*bank robbery)[11]
80. Fred Dale Pitzer (1976*transportation of falsely made*securities)[12]
81. Charles Blurford Power (1948*transportation of a stolen vehicle)[11]
82. Michael John Pozorski (1988*Unlawful possession of an unregistered firearm)[10]
83. James Edward Reed (1975*marijuana possession with intent to distribute)[8]
84. Thomas R. Reece (1969*violating the Internal Revenue Code pertaining to alcohol. Pardoned*December 21,*2006)
85. Cecil John Rhodes (1981*false statement on a loan application)[12]
86. John Louis Ribando (1976*and*1978*marijuana dealing)[4]
87. Larry Gene Ross (1989*making false statements in a bank loan application. Pardoned*December 21,*2006)
88. Ernest Rudnet (1992*conspiracy to file false*tax returns)*[6]
89. Gary L. Saltzburg (1995*theft of government property)*[6]
90. John Gregory Schillace (1988*conspiracy to possess cocaine for distribution)[11]
91. Russell Don Sell (1995*aiding and abetting a false statement on a loan application)[12]
92. Stephen Davis Simmons (1981*Possession of counterfeit obligations)[5]
93. Scott LaVerne Sparks (1989*theft*of government property)[8]
94. Wendy St. Charles (1984*conspiracy to trade*narcotics*and cocaine distribution)[11]
95. David Lloyd St. Croix (1989*disposal of stolen*explosives)[6]
96. Jearld David Swanner (1991*making false statements in a bank loan application. Pardoned*December 21,*2006)
97. James Walter Taylor (1991*bank fraud. Pardoned*December 21,*2006)
98. Johnson Heyward Tisdale (1994*food stamp fraud)[14]
99. Edward Rodriguez Trevino, Jr. (1997*theft, convicted in military court)[4]
100. Janet Theone Upton (1975*mail fraud. pardoned*December 21,*2006)
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...and the rest

101. Jerry Dean Walker (1989 cocaine distribution)[4]
102. Joseph William Warner (1995 arson on an Indian reservation)[6]
103. Mark Lewis Weber (1981 Selling Quaalude tablets, selling, using, and possessing marijuana )[10]
104. Roger Charles Weber (1969 Theft from an interstate shipment)[5]
105. Mariano Garza Caballero (1984 dealing in firearms without a license)[1]
106. Anthony C. Foglio aka Tony Foley(1996 distributing marijuana)[1]
107. Marvin Robert Foster (1968 making a false statement in connection with a Federal Housing Administration loan)[1]
108. Carl Harry Hachmeister (1985 conspiracy to commit wire and mail fraud)[1]
109. William Marcus McDonald (1984 Air Force court-martial for cocaine and marijuana charges)[1]
110. Robert Michael Milroy (1975 heroin importation)[1]
111. Jerry Lynn Moldenhauer (1994 selling migratory bird parts in violation of the Migratory Bird Treaty Act)[1]
112. Thomas Donald Moldenhauer (1994 selling migratory bird parts in violation of the Migratory Bird Treaty Act)[1]
113. Richard James Putney (1996 aiding and abetting the escape of a prisoner)[1]
114. Timothy Alfred Thone (1987 making a false statement to the Department of Housing and Urban Development to obtain a mortgage)[1]
115. Lonnie Edward Two Eagle Sr. (1976 misdemeanor simple assault on an Indian reservation)[1]
116. Jimmy Lee Williams (1995 false statements on a loan application)[11]
117. William Charles Jordan Jr. (1997 conspiracy to gamble regarding football)[16]
118. Jeffrey James Bruce (1994 possessing stolen mail)[16]
119. Jackie Ray Clayborn (1993 marijuana charges)[16]
120. John Fornaby (1991 conspiring to distribute cocaine)[16]
121. Melton Harrell (1976 stealing government property)[16]
122. Saul Kaplan (1992 violating the Federal Election Campaign Act)[16]
123. John F. McDermott (1995 receiving kickbacks in defense procurement contracts)[16]
124. William James Norman (1970 possessing and running an unregistered distillery that did not carry the proper signage and illegally produced alcoholic drinks made from mash)[16]
125. James Albert Bodendieck Sr.(1959 transporting a stolen vehicle across state lines)[16]
126. Glanus Terrell Osborne (1990 possessing a stolen motor vehicle)[16]
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4. Tony Dale Ashworth (1989*unlawful transfer of a firearm

I would have pardon him as well, the man makes 'shine' for goodness sake. I buy mine from a guy in north Georgia, he makes it from apples. And he sold his trusty bird gun to a friend. Gimmie a break......
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