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Shades of the current Bush administration here...

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Ernie,

THIS what the future administration will do when an investigation is launched? Deny, obfuscate, delay, pardon, refuse to answer or cooperate? Always for a dam good reason of course, in THEIR mind!

Isn't that what all of the administrations have done for the past 50 years or so? Remember this is politics mixed with a news media that is only interested in ratings and not facts. I only know what I read and hear about that, so I discount much of it as i do what I hear and read about Obama. Heck, if you want the REAL truth watch the CNN people and their completely unbiased reporting. I know it is unbiased because they say so.

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How many azz-wipes did Clinton pardon right before he left office?
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How many azz-wipes did Clinton pardon right before he left office?
As many as he could so they would not blab about the Clinton's shady deals, but they were stealing as much as they could from the White House (furniture, etc), so that cut into the number of criminals he pardoned.
There was just a few, so I listed them below. Please do not fall asleep reading the few names.

Pardons from President Clinton

Verla Jean Allen (1990 false statements to an agency of the United States)
Nicholas M. Altiere (1983 importation of cocaine)
Bernice Ruth Altschul (1992 money laundering conspiracy)
Joe Anderson Jr. (1988 income tax evasion)
William Sterling Anderson (1987 defraudment of a financial institution, false statements to a financial institution, wire fraud)
Mansour Azizkhani (1984 false statements in bank loan applications)
Cleveland Victor Babin Jr. (1987 using the U.S. mail service to defraud)
Chris Harmon Bagley (1989 conspiracy to possess with intent to distribute cocaine)
Scott Lynn Bane (Unlawful distribution of marijuana)
Thomas Cleveland Barber (Issuing worthless checks)
Peggy Ann Bargon (Violation of the Lacey Act, violation of the Bald Eagle Protection Act)
David Roscoe Blampied (possess with intent to distribute cocaine)
William Arthur Borders Jr. (Conspiracy to corruptly solicit and accept money in return for influencing the official acts of a federal district court judge (Alcee L. Hastings), and to defraud the United States in connection with the performance of lawful government functions; corruptly influencing, obstructing, impeding and endeavoring to influence, obstruct and impede the due administration of justice, and aiding and abetting therein; traveling interstate with intent to commit bribery)
Arthur David Borel (Odometer Rollback)
Douglas Charles Borel (Odometer Rollback)
George Thomas Brabham (Making a false statement or report to a federally insured bank)
Almon Glenn Braswell (1983 mail fraud and perjury)
Leonard Browder (Illegal dispensing of controlled substance and Medicaid fraud)
David Steven Brown (Securities fraud and mail fraud)
Delores Caroylene Burleson, aka Delores Cox Burleson (Possession of Marijuana)
John H. Bustamante (wire fraud)
Mary Louise Campbell
Eloida Candelaria
Dennis Sobrevinas Capili
Donna Denise Chambers
Douglas Eugene Chapman
Ronald Keith Chapman
Francisco Larois Chavez
Henry Cisneros (former HUD Secretary)
Roger Clinton, Jr. Cocaine charges(half-brother of President Bill Clinton)
Stuart Harris Cohn
David Marc Cooper
Ernest Harley Cox Jr.
John F. Cross Jr.
Reickey Lee Cunningham
Richard Anthony De Labio
John Deutch (former Director of Central Intelligence Agency)
Richard Douglas
Edward Reynolds Downe
Marvin Dean Dudley
Larry Lee Duncan
Galen R. Elmore (Convicted of cattle theft)
Robert Clinton Fain
Marcos Arcenio Fernandez
Alvarez Ferrouillet
Henry O. Flipper - guilty of "conduct unbecoming an officer" (1882)
William Dennis Fugazy
Lloyd Reid George
Louis Goldstein
Rubye Lee Gordon
Pincus Green
Robert Ivey Hamner
Samuel Price Handley
Woodie Randolph Handley
Jay Houston Harmon
Rick Hendrick
John Hummingson
David S. Herdlinger
Debi Rae Huckleberry
Warren C. Hultgren Jr.
Donald Ray James
Stanley Pruet Jobe
Ruben H. Johnson
Linda Jones
James Howard Lake
June Louise Lewis
Salim Bonnor Lewis
John Leighton Lodwick
Hildebrando Lopez
Jose Julio Luaces
James Timothy Maness
James Lowell Manning, (1982, aiding and assisting in the preparation of a false corporate income tax return)
John Robert Martin
Frank Ayala Martinez
Silvia Leticia Beltran Martinez
John Francis McCormick
Susan H. McDougal
Howard Mechanic
Brook K. Mitchell Sr.
Samuel Loring Morison
Charles Wilfred Morgan III
Richard Anthony Nazzaro
Charlene Ann Nosenko
Vernon Raymond Obermeier
Miguelina Ogalde
David C. Owen
Robert W. Palmer
Kelli Anne Perhosky
Richard H. Pezzopane
Orville Rex Phillips
Vinson Stewart Poling Jr.
James G. Powell
Norman Lyle Prouse
Willie H.H. Pruitt Jr.
Danny Martin Pursley Sr.
Charles D. Ravenel
William Clyde Ray
Alfredo Luna Regalado
Ildefonso Reynes Ricafort
Marc Rich
Howard Winfield Riddle
Richard Wilson Riley Jr., Cocaine and marijuana charges, His father was Clinton's Education Secretary.
Samuel Lee Robbins
Joel Gonzales Rodriguez
Michael James Rogers
Anna Louise Ross
Dan Rostenkowski - Former Democratic Congressman convicted in the Congressional Post Office Scandal
Gerald Glen Rust
Jerri Ann Rust
Bettye June Rutherford
Gregory Lee Sands
Adolph Schwimmer
Albert A. Seretti Jr.
Patricia Campbell Hearst Shaw
Dennis Joseph Smith
Gerald Owen Smith
Stephen A. Smith
Jimmie Lee Speake
Charles Bernard Stewart
Marlena Francisca Stewart-Rollins
Fife Symington III - former Arizona governor
Richard Lee Tannehill
Nicholas C. Tenaglia
Gary Allen Thomas
Larry Weldon Todd
Olga C. Trevino
Ignatious Vamvouklis
Patricia A. Van De Weerd
Christopher V. Wade
Bill Wayne Warmath
Jack Kenneth Watson
Donna Lynn Webb
Donald William Wells
Robert H. Wendt
Jack L. Williams
Kavin Arthur Williams
Robert Michael Williams
Jimmie Lee Wilson
Thelma Louise Wingate
Mitchell Couey Wood
Warren Stannard Wood
Dewey Worthey
Rick Allen Yale
Joseph A. Yasak
William Stanley Yingling
Phillip David Young
Keith Sanders
Darren Muci
John Scott (not a full pardon)

Only 149 pardons. Thankfully, only commuted the sentences of about 40 criminals .......

Commutations by President ClintonRonald Henderson Blackley
Bert Wayne Bolan
Gloria Libia Camargo
Charles F. Campbell
David Ronald Chandler - federal death row inmate[1].
Lau Ching Chin
Donald R. Clark
Loreta De-Ann Coffman
Derrick Curry
Velinda Desalus
Jacob Elbaum
Linda Sue Evans
Loretta Sharon Fish
Antoinette M. Frink
David Goldstein
Gerard A. Greenfield
Jodie E. Israel
Kimberly Johnson
Billy Thornton Langston Jr.
Belinda Lynn Lumpkin
Peter MacDonald - Navajo Chairman (sentence for 14 years in 1993 for fraud and racketeering convictions.)
Kellie Ann Mann
Peter Ninemire
Hugh Ricardo Padmore
Arnold Paul Prosperi Florida attorney, tax fraud. managed Clinton's 1967 campaign for student-council president.[2]
Melvin J. Reynolds - Democratic Congressman from Illinois - bank fraud and obstruction of justice
Pedro Miguel Riveiro
Dorothy Rivers - lead official in Jesse Jackson’s Rainbow/PUSH Coalition, plead guilty to theft of 1.2 million dollars in federal grant money
Susan Rosenberg
Kalmen Stern
Cory Stringfellow
Carlos Anibal Vignali - convicted of cocaine trafficking
Thomas Wilson Waddell III
Harvey Weinig
Kim Allen Willis
Kimba Smith
Antonio Camacho Negron - FALN militant
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Darn Warren, you outdid yourself with that post. I had forgotten that Clinton did pardon so many. As for the white house furniture etc, didn't they claim that was theirs as they bought it?

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'goes to heat of the matter' my a$$, ernie you don't have a clue as to the details, and Sarah said long ago she's not concerned with the outcome. Just a continuation of your main objective: get my post count up!.
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Try looking into what Obama did to his opponent in his run for the state seat. I will try and NEXUS it.Typical dirty politics that as usual never gets in the main media.
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She's too busy giving jobs to High School classmates!
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She's too busy giving jobs to High School classmates!
Mind posting where you got that or did it just come out of your head?

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She's too busy giving jobs to High School classmates!
Is this true?

I have not heard this. I am not saying any politician is above it, but where did this come from?
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Steve...came from the Sunday New York Times...

"WASILLA, Alaska - Gov. Sarah Palin lives by the maxim that all politics is local, not to mention personal.

So when there was a vacancy at the top of the State Division of Agriculture, she appointed a high school classmate, Franci Havemeister, to the $95,000-a-year directorship. A former real estate agent, Ms. Havemeister cited her childhood love of cows as one of her qualifications for running the roughly $2 million agency.

Ms. Havemeister was one of at least five schoolmates Ms. Palin hired, often at salaries far exceeding their private sector wages. "


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Wow, I had not seen that.

I am not really surprised. Politics are politics these days.

Never know do you?
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Steve,
I would take that story with a huge dose of salt.

Do you really think that the NYT and MSNBC are about to be honest when it comes to politics ? They have been in the bag for O for some time now.
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Ok, now I know where it came from. I don't read or pay any attention to most of the news media as they are always distorting things to get better ratings. But it could be true as most politicians reward their friends with good jobs and benefits. Thanks for posting the source Glyn. that took nerve.

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Laughable.

So buggering what? She hired someone she knew. Truly unbelievable post.

I know of no position that doesn't hire based on prior friendship.

I give much more credence to someone who is hired because they knew (ethics may be clear) them as opposed to someone they owed (typical appointments).

Was there something wrong with the way they carried out their duties?

Were they hanging Che Rivera posters on the back of the office?

Where in the bugger do you think the phrase "it isn't what you know, it's who you know" came from.

who posted this... the hypocrite? the pompous windbag (who has proven himself), or... oh yes... welcome to the party, I will wait to see what moniker gets branded to you.
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who posted this... the hypocrite? the pompous windbag (who has proven himself), or... oh yes... welcome to the party, I will wait to see what moniker gets branded to you.
roflmao...NO, not me, I didn't post it...I merely clarified where it came from!
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Appointed Franci Havemeister to a $ 95,000 position as head of state Division of Agriculture ( high school classmate ).
Joe Austerman $82,908, Manager of Office of Econonic Development ( high classmate )
Appointed another classmate ( a Jr High school bandmate ) as her legislative assistant.
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That someone,anyone,would have the nerve to hire somebody they have known for many years and they trust is almost unforgiveable !!! The Horror !!
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That someone,anyone,would have the nerve to hire somebody they have known for many years and they trust is almost unforgiveable !!! The Horror !!
Yes, especially as they really DID like cows!
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That someone,anyone,would have the nerve to hire somebody they have known for many years and they trust is almost unforgiveable !!! The Horror !!
Kind of like what the President does when he names his cabinet and ambassadors.
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