How Joe The Plumber makes $250,000+

[VRM]

Originally Posted by MChat

I got a better idea: How about the Gov't stop spending so much money. We could start by not giving foreign aid to countries that hate us. Stop requiring States to "use or lose" Federal dollars (let unused $$$ come back to the Fed without affecting next years state alotment).

Yep, I agree with that. I think McCain will do a better job there than Obama, but I still do not think McCain will do a good job. I think he will cut a few things here and there, but it will mostly be business as usual.
BTW, I'm voting for Ron Paul - he would do a much better job than either Obama or McCain. Yeah, he is a little shrill, and does not always present well, but so far he is the only guy I have even a shred of respect for. And his record bears out his desire for small government and small taxes.

Steve

[MChat]

Originally Posted by VRM

BTW, I'm voting for Ron Paul - he would do a much better job than either Obama or McCain. Yeah, he is a little shrill, and does not always present well, but so far he is the only guy I have even a shred of respect for. And his record bears out his desire for small government and small taxes.

Steve

As conservative as I am, you might be surprised to know that I've voted for 3rd party candidates (usually libertarian*) for 3 of the last 4 elections. The reason, for me, is simple. The Republican party no longer seems to want to represent conservatives. The Rep party is catering to the centrists while the Dems go after the far left. Give me a strong conservative party that'll fight to put this country back on the right track.

It has been my luxury to vote 3rd party in the past as I live in a primarily Republican state (AZ); I'm not so sure that's the case anymore. If everyone who didn't like either of the 2 major candiates actually voted 3rd party, then we'd have an honest chance. But thanks to our "don't throw your vote away" media that's not going to happen; the media knows how to manipulate the sheeple.

*Although the libertarian platform has some planks I don't agree with, they're the biggest party that is for Individual Responsibility and Smaller Government. Two things we desperately need in this country.

My position is that the GOVERNment's job is to GOVERN (hence the name). If it were meant to PROVIDE (as the left wants) it would have been called a PROVIDERment. The Government's job is defense and justice. That is to defend against foreign attack (this also includes foreign relations/policy) and to judge & punish wrong-doers (and in the case of our Federal Gov't to settle disputes between states). It is the Church's responsibility to provide charity, not the governments. It's the individual's job to provide for his family and his future (retirement).

[NeoConMan]

Originally Posted by VRM

I'm voting for Ron Paul
Yeah, he is a little shrill, and does not always present well, but so far he is the only guy I have even a shred of respect for.
And his record bears out his desire for small government and small taxes.

Ron Paul is nuttier than a sh!t house rat.
I have to ask the Paul supporters this;
How long have you been following him?

I was well aware of his "quirks" when he first took office in the eighties.
I owned property and a home in Brazoria County Texas for 15 years.

He can say all the right things to get people to follow him, honestly I agree with him on principle on 90% of his platform.
But the two Achilles Tendons are legalizing dope and opening the borders.

Screw that, I'll keep voting Republican and melting the phones in McCain's offices like I've done for 8 years. I've never voted for that axxhole, never liked him, and come November I'll be like a kid eating spinach when I cat my ballot for him.

Voting for your candidate is NOT the end, it's the beginning.
Get on the phones, get in touch with their staffers, and TELL THEM when they piss you off.




By the way, I thought ex-Republican Bob Barr was the Libertarian candidate...