Redistribution of Wealth

[BeanCounter]

Bill,

Your logic is tragically flawed. You talk about the military and I doubt that you really know much about it. My son was in Desert Storm, I was in Viet Nam, his grandfather was in the 3rd wave at Normandy and across the road from the 506th at Bastogne, my grandfather was wounded at Chateau Thierry, and my grt grandfather at Vicksburg, and my gt gt grandfather at Murphysboro (at age 53 I might add), and his father was with Jackson and the Tennesee Vols at New Orleans, and his father at 14 picked up a rifle to fight in the revolution. So don't tell me about the military. I grew up with my brother and sister in a two room apartment above a bar. And I worked my ass off to get where I'm at and they can kiss my ass before they start handing my money out to everyone who doesn't deserve it. I'll fold everything up and put everyone on the street and sit back and enjoy what I've got and not worry about them and their socialist messiah. And I might add that I'm bringing the three grandsons up to understand that people with those ideas don't deserve defending by us any more. From here on out the robbers can defend themselves, we'll look after our own selves. I just hope you don't need any help when the time comes because the likes of me that you so look down on aren't going to come to your aid ever again if you get what you want. We'll be fighting you.

[DAVID GAGNARD]

Originally Posted by BeanCounter

Bill,

Your logic is tragically flawed. You talk about the military and I doubt that you really know much about it. My son was in Desert Storm, I was in Viet Nam, his grandfather was in the 3rd wave at Normandy and across the road from the 506th at Bastogne, my grandfather was wounded at Chateau Thierry, and my grt grandfather at Vicksburg, and my gt gt grandfather at Murphysboro (at age 53 I might add), and his father was with Jackson and the Tennesee Vols at New Orleans, and his father at 14 picked up a rifle to fight in the revolution. So don't tell me about the military. I grew up with my brother and sister in a two room apartment above a bar. And I worked my ass off to get where I'm at and they can kiss my ass before they start handing my money out to everyone who doesn't deserve it. I'll fold everything up and put everyone on the street and sit back and enjoy what I've got and not worry about them and their socialist messiah. And I might add that I'm bringing the three grandsons up to understand that people with those ideas don't deserve defending by us any more. From here on out the robbers can defend themselves, we'll look after our own selves. I just hope you don't need any help when the time comes because the likes of me that you so look down on aren't going to come to your aid ever again if you get what you want. We'll be fighting you.

Dang Bernie ,I bet you feel better also!!!!!!!!!

David

[BeanCounter]

I'll tell you what's going to make me feel better. I've got one of the young guys who works for me who's a big Obama supporter. He an his wife are little worker bees for "the anointed one". He's been hacking his spiel around the office and I'm fed up with it. I just called him and asked him to come in tomorrow morning where I'm going to give him a first hand lesson in Obamanomics. I know another young guy who makes probably 70% of what this guy makes and I figure it's about time that he gets to enjoy to fruits of the upper class. So tomorrow he's going to get his chance and and the socialist is going to get to go home and explain to his wife all about how they're going to have plenty of time to expound on and give first hand examples of how we should be taking from the well off and giving to the less well to do. I'll bet I'll be like Chris Matthews and it'll make my leg shiver.

[jhv48]

Don't you realize that it only works if it happens to someone OTHER THAN YOU!

[aharris]

Originally Posted by BeanCounter

I'll tell you what's going to make me feel better. I've got one of the young guys who works for me who's a big Obama supporter. He an his wife are little worker bees for "the anointed one". He's been hacking his spiel around the office and I'm fed up with it. I just called him and asked him to come in tomorrow morning where I'm going to give him a first hand lesson in Obamanomics. I know another young guy who makes probably 70% of what this guy makes and I figure it's about time that he gets to enjoy to fruits of the upper class. So tomorrow he's going to get his chance and and the socialist is going to get to go home and explain to his wife all about how they're going to have plenty of time to expound on and give first hand examples of how we should be taking from the well off and giving to the less well to do. I'll bet I'll be like Chris Matthews and it'll make my leg shiver.

Bernie

You are going to fire this guy because he has opposing political views to you?

Andrew

[NeoConMan]

Are you really that appalled if he does?

Only when a "poor Lefty" gets canned is there any outcry.
Poor "victim of the man"....


What if the guy was walking around spouting off Bible verses and espousing the virtue of our Founding Fathers?
What if he was saying we needed to get back to practicing the Liberty our country was founded on and go to church with our families like most of them did?

Bean counter could get the ACLU behind him to fire the guy then.

[aharris]

Originally Posted by NeoConMan

Are you really that appalled if he does?

Only when a "poor Lefty" gets canned is there any outcry.
Poor "victim of the man"....


What if the guy was walking around spouting off Bible verses and espousing the virtue of our Founding Fathers?
What if he was saying we needed to get back to practicing the Liberty our country was founded on and go to church with our families like most of them did?

Bean counter could get the ACLU behind him to fire the guy then.

No. Actually, I was thinking about his right to freedom of speech and expression. It just seems a bit hypocritical.

A

[DAVID GAGNARD]

Bushs tax cuts did benefit me, but only a little bit. The fact of the matter is that the richest people in the country will have had a total tax break of about 5-6% of their income by the time the tax breaks expire in 2010. The upper middle class (where I am) on down to the poorest will have received a 1-2% cut. I understand that my cut will not be the same dollar figure as Warren Buffet because he makes more. His dollar level should be significantly higher, but why is his percentage also higher

Very simply put, his percentage is higher than yours cause he pays at a higher percentage tax rate than you!!!!!!!!!!! My main concern with OB is that he will have to raise taxes on a lot more folks than the "very rich" to fund all the give-a-way programs he has said he wants to do.

A lot of you guys are complaining about 'redistribution of wealth'. It is a poor choice of words because Obamas plan re-allocates the tax burden. I will not be getting any of your wealth, I will just be keeping more of mine.

Agree with you on that one.
Those words are NOT MINE, they are OBs.... Same as when he said about slicing up the pie,saying EVERYONE should get a piece of the pie,there I disagree,you should only get a piece of the pie if you work for it....
OBs plan as you say re-allocates the tax burden and I agree with that statement, but, I also think that raising the tax burden on the rich will have a "trickle down" effect, as in layoffs and higher prices for goods and services to offset the higher tax burden,IMHO........

My money gets redistrubuted to those poor states like GA ($1.01), AZ ($1.19), MO ($1.32), and LA ($1.78).

Yes it does and I'm from Louisiana, and I know what you mean when you look at those numbers....We are trying to do something about it, we finally elected a governor that has a little bit of brains and wants to do the right thing. So far, hundreds of state employees and appointees have quit, because of his honesty and desire to make everyone accountable for their job and actions.......he has fired a number of high level folks simply cause they couldn't do the job they were getting paid to do, for once in a very long time, the governor has delivered on his campaign promises, and things are slowing changing for the better........

We've had far too many years of corrupt and in-ept democrats running our state goverment.... Our three term governor is in the federal jail right now, he's from my home town and my dads highschool classmate and I know him personally, but he was a crook......the last four Insurance Comissoiners are either in federal jail right now or have served their time in federal jail and are now out..

We've had the best politicians money can buy!!!!!!!!! it's ashame to say it, but, it's the truth.....only the voters can change that, and we're trying........


David

[VRM]

Originally Posted by DAVID GAGNARD

Very simply put, his percentage is higher than yours cause he pays at a higher percentage tax rate than you!!!!!!!!!!! My main concern with OB is that he will have to raise taxes on a lot more folks than the "very rich" to fund all the give-a-way programs he has said he wants to do.



Agree with you on that one.
Those words are NOT MINE, they are OBs.... Same as when he said about slicing up the pie,saying EVERYONE should get a piece of the pie,there I disagree,you should only get a piece of the pie if you work for it....
OBs plan as you say re-allocates the tax burden and I agree with that statement, but, I also think that raising the tax burden on the rich will have a "trickle down" effect, as in layoffs and higher prices for goods and services to offset the higher tax burden,IMHO........



Yes it does and I'm from Louisiana, and I know what you mean when you look at those numbers....We are trying to do something about it, we finally elected a governor that has a little bit of brains and wants to do the right thing. So far, hundreds of state employees and appointees have quit, because of his honesty and desire to make everyone accountable for their job and actions.......he has fired a number of high level folks simply cause they couldn't do the job they were getting paid to do, for once in a very long time, the governor has delivered on his campaign promises, and things are slowing changing for the better........

We've had far too many years of corrupt and in-ept democrats running our state goverment.... Our three term governor is in the federal jail right now, he's from my home town and my dads highschool classmate and I know him personally, but he was a crook......the last four Insurance Comissoiners are either in federal jail right now or have served their time in federal jail and are now out..

We've had the best politicians money can buy!!!!!!!!! it's ashame to say it, but, it's the truth.....only the voters can change that, and we're trying........


David

David,
Thanks for trying to do something about LA. MA is not exactly full of good politicians; we have Frank, Kerry, Kennedy, and a lot of others at the local level I don't even want to go into! However, I am at the point now where I am sick of all the ungrateful people in the poor states taking advantage of my states good fortune. My property tax rate is pretty high compared to those poor states I mentioned. Maybe those states should charge a higher property tax rate so that they don't have to keep taking my fed money, and thereby causing my state and local rates to be higher.
I do not like Obamas tax plan, but I think it is better than McCains. I'm also sure that Obamas plan will only be for a short term anyway, but it will be a good stimulus package that will help create jobs. I agree that only those who work should get a bit of that pie. I've already posted something on that under the 'what I would do' thread. I hate welfare, and would love to get rid of it.

Steve