Redistribution of Wealth

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Originally Posted by VRM

Clay,
McCains campaign (and folks here) are using one of the 'Bad Words' of American politics in order to associate Obama with un-American thinking.

I'm sure you know that the Constitution did not declare that have a capitalist or socialist government, but it only defined how that government was to operate. The perfect capitalist society would have all of us be slaves, but then there would be no markets; the perfect socialist society would have all of us with equal incomes, but then there would be no drive to excel and build additional wealth.

CdC is right about the tax credit for SS and medicare. However, Obamas tax plan, for the most part, is a big stimulus package that I'm sure the GOP will repeal as soon as they can.

Welcome to the mess...try not to get yourself banned!

Steve

associate Obama with un-American thinking?

The audio recording of Barack Obama espousing his socialist philosophy of “redistribution of wealth” is all over the Internet and Fox News today (although the other media outlets are ignoring it), but there’s another disturbing section on that tape that has so far escaped notice.


The link to the audio is here: Chicago Public Radio - Audio Library: Odyssey.
http://www.wbez.org/audio_library/od_rajan01.asp#010118

At about 15:30, Obama compares what was going on in the United States during the time of Brown vs. the Board of Education to ... Nazi Germany. Yes, really. Here’s the quote:

“...just to take a, sort of a realist perspective...there’s a lot of change going on outside of the Court, um, that, that judges essentially have to take judicial notice of. I mean you’ve got World War II, you’ve got uh, uh, uh, the doctrines of Nazism, that, that we are fighting against, that start looking uncomfortably similar to what we have going on, back here at home.”

There you have it. America is close to electing a President that compares his own country to Nazi Germany.

Liberals have become so crass, so ignorant of history, and so idealogically blinded that we can now call them "National Socialists" without them realizing that we just painted them as NAZIs.

We called Obama a socialist because he definitely is one. We've been countered with, "What's wrong with socialism?"

Now we can simply call them National Socialists. They don't even KNOW we've just called them NAZIs.

[VRM]

Well, Goodwin...here we come...

CdC, I'm sure you are familiar with Jesse Owens. If you are not then look him up. Germany did everything they could to marginalise blacks, jews, gypsies, gays, and anybody else who did not fit in the Aryan Christian mould.

At the time mainstream America also looked down on many of those groups. A perfect example is the Tuskeegee airmen who had to work x-times as hard to get the same respect as white pilots. America did not set out to exterminate those groups, so if America is compared to Germany in the '40s we compare favourably, but because we did not treat minorities as equals we do not rate perfectly in that comparison.
In 1954 things were better, but still not perfect. And being an Aryan looking guy myself I have never been on the receiving end of the sort of racism that Obama has probably had to deal with. In the movie 'We Were Soldiers' there is a segment where all the wives are sitting around discussing how to get things done, and one of the more naive women asks where the others do the rest of their laundry because the laundromat she goes to will only do t-shirts, socks, and briefs. They look at her with a puzzled expression, and she explains that the laundromat has a sign in the window that says 'No Coloureds'. They all immediately look at the wife of one of the soldiers (she is black) and everything gets very uncomfortable. Now I was too young to remember anything like that, but that was late '60s, and I have certainly seen pictures.

Fast forward to today - now the bad guys are Muslims and gays, though there are still people who are holding on to older prejudices, as evidenced by the two who were caught planning to kill Obama as a cap to a killing spree of blacks.

So if Obama compares the US and Germany in WW2 it is not that he is trying to emulate Germany. That would be suicidal, and I really doubt that is his goal. Sounds to me like he would be trying to do what he can to fix a problem that he would most likely be a lot more personal to him than to either one of us. Maybe you would be better off calling him a Tuskeegee airman as he seems to want to fight racism at home.

Steve

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Originally Posted by VRM

Well, Goodwin...here we come...

CdC, I'm sure you are familiar with Jesse Owens. If you are not then look him up. Germany did everything they could to marginalise blacks, jews, gypsies, gays, and anybody else who did not fit in the Aryan Christian mould.

At the time mainstream America also looked down on many of those groups. A perfect example is the Tuskeegee airmen who had to work x-times as hard to get the same respect as white pilots. America did not set out to exterminate those groups, so if America is compared to Germany in the '40s we compare favourably, but because we did not treat minorities as equals we do not rate perfectly in that comparison.
In 1954 things were better, but still not perfect. And being an Aryan looking guy myself I have never been on the receiving end of the sort of racism that Obama has probably had to deal with. In the movie 'We Were Soldiers' there is a segment where all the wives are sitting around discussing how to get things done, and one of the more naive women asks where the others do the rest of their laundry because the laundromat she goes to will only do t-shirts, socks, and briefs. They look at her with a puzzled expression, and she explains that the laundromat has a sign in the window that says 'No Coloureds'. They all immediately look at the wife of one of the soldiers (she is black) and everything gets very uncomfortable. Now I was too young to remember anything like that, but that was late '60s, and I have certainly seen pictures.

Fast forward to today - now the bad guys are Muslims and gays, though there are still people who are holding on to older prejudices, as evidenced by the two who were caught planning to kill Obama as a cap to a killing spree of blacks.

So if Obama compares the US and Germany in WW2 it is not that he is trying to emulate Germany. That would be suicidal, and I really doubt that is his goal. Sounds to me like he would be trying to do what he can to fix a problem that he would most likely be a lot more personal to him than to either one of us. Maybe you would be better off calling him a Tuskeegee airman as he seems to want to fight racism at home.

Steve

What a huge load of codswallow, VRM - I really don't care to assume what Obama is thinking - he's at best a National Socialist - besides, what he has had to endure in his lifetime doesn't give him authority or the thinking pattern to install 'stuff' that he believes will make things right for every soul in America. He needs to be rejected.