Should the US bailout the big three automakers?

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BILL WELLS, GREAT POST. cobra392,bobcat you sound like a bunch of bitter old farts(chill out cooter)EVERYONE IS SO QUICK TO BLAME SOMEONE. SOME OF YOU WOULD PROB. BE HAPPY IF THEY HIRED A BUNCH OF MEXICANS FOR $15HR AND THINK THE PROB. WOULD BE FIXED AND IF THAT DIDNT WORK YOU WOULD SAY THAT THEY R OVERPAYED. BEING A IBEW MEMBER AND ALSO WORKING NON-UNION I HAVE HAD THE BENEFIT TO SEE BOTH SIDES. WE DEF. NEED UNIONS IN SOME WORK AREAS. AS FAR AS MY INDUSTRY GOES ABOUT 10% OF THE WORKERS R USELESS! AND GUESS WHAT, THEY HARDLY EVER WORK. SO THEY REALLY DONT HAVE A BIG EFFECT ON ME. IF YOU SUCK THEN YOU GET FIRED.....I ALSO HAD THE PRIV. TO RE-TOOL THE CHRYSLER PLANT IN IL. AND MOST OF THE TRAVELING IBEW MEMBERS NEEDED FOR A JOB THAT SIZE CAME FROM ALL OVER THE US TO WORK THE BIG OT. MOST OF THE GUYS THERE WERE GOOD GUYS TRYING TO MAKE SOME $$$ WHAT AMAZED ME WAS ALL THE STANDING AROUND WE DID BECAUSE THE TOP EXECS,ENGINEERS AND UPPER MANAGEMANT COULDNT FIGURE OUT WHAT THE HELL THEY NEEDED,WANTED OR EVEN SURE HOW TO MAKE SOMETHING WORK. MORE UNPRODUCTIVE TIME THAT I HAD EVER SEEN. BUT I AM SURE THE WORKERS GOT BLAMED FOR IT. THE POINT IS THAT IT IS EVERYONES FAULT. NOT JUST ONE GROUP OF PEOPLE. SAYING THAT ALL UNION WORKERS R USELESS IS LIKE ME SAYING THAT 90% OF THE GUYS I WORKED W/THAT WERE FROM THE SOUTH SUCKED,AND THEY DID. DOES THAT MEAN THAT ALL PEOPLE FROM SOUTH ARE IDIOTS OR CRAPPY WORKERS? NO IT DOESNT. ALL CONTRACTS FROM TOP TO BOTTOM NEED TO BE REVAMPED. THE WORKERS ONLY MAKE AN AVG. OF $25hr. THAT AINT CHIT. DOES A TOP EXEC NEED THE SALARY OF WHAT 500 LINE WORKERS MAKE A YEAR? I GUESS IF THE PROFFITS R THERE ITS OK. CUT BACKS R NEEDED EVERY WHERE. THE QUALITY OF THE PRODUCT IS THERE. WHEN I WAS WORKING NON-UNION I REMEMBER THAT I HAD TO TAKE MANY MORE RISKS AND PUT MYSELF IN DANGER (WHAT EVER IT TOOK TO GET THE JOB DONE) SOME OF MY FRIENDS OWN NON-UNION SHOPS CHARGE WITH IN $10hr WHAT WE CHARGE. THE GC WHO I WORK W/ PRESENTLY HAS JOBS ALL OVER THE STATES AND TELLS ME BY TIME THE JOB IS DONE OUR JOBS R DONE SAFER,QUICKER AND W/PRIDE AND QUALITY......BAIL OUT THE WHITE COLLAR GUYS BUT NOT THE BLUE COLLAR TRASH SEEMS TO BE SOME OF YOUR VIEWS? ITS ALL OUR FAULTS FOR LETTING THEM SEND ALOT OF THE UAW WORK OVER THE BORDERS. PROB SAVED THE CAR COMPANYS BILLIONS. WHERE DID ALL THE BILLIONS GO? OH YEH ,THE EXECS POCKETS.....SO ARE THE UAW GUYS TO BLAME? TO A POINT YES! I WOULD DEF. SAY THAT 75% OF THE COMPANIES PROBLEMS COME FROME UPPER MANAG. AND CORP. WASTE. I THINK WE NEED TO HOLD ALL ACOUNTABLE FOR R COUNTRIES MESS. ALL THE MONEY THAT IT SAVED BUY SENDING JOBS OVER SEAS GOES TO ???????????OH YEAH, THE TOP EXECS. SO DOES CUTTING THE BENEFITS OF THE WORKER HELP THE COMPANY(IT SHOULD)NO IT SEEMS TO GO TO BONUSES! RICH GET RICHER. EVERYONE SHOULD WORK FOR THERE SHARE AND I KNOW WE ALL CANT BE WEALTHY BUT WE ALL DESERVE A GOOD BUCK FOR A GOOD DAYS WORK!!GOOD PAY FOR A JOB WELL DONE.(I GUESS GW WOULD OWE)

BRING R JOBS BACK HOME
PUT HIGHER TAXES ON IMPORTS/X4 FOR CHINA
MAKE EVERYONE ACCOUNTABLE FOR THERE ACTIONS
STOP FINGER POINTING
CLOSE THE BOARDERS 4 AWHILE
MAKE PEOPLE WHO R ON WELFARE DO SOMETHING FOR THE $$$
EYE FOR AN EYE
PENALIZE BUISS. THAT HIRE ILLEGALZ
LET ME KEEP MY GUNS
LET ME CHOOSE MY OWN BELIEFS
FLAT TAX 20% ,NO RITE-OFFS
TAKE PRIDE IN ALL YOU DO.
SOUNDS PRETTY E-Z. NOW IF THE LEFT AND RITE COULD MEET IN THE MIDDLE MAYBE SOMETHING WOULD GET DONE...............YEAH RITE..