Should the US bailout the big three automakers?

[What'saCobra?]

Yes, sir, the FORD family has protected the management from the public's over-reactions and various market vicissitudes. FORD was seldom the biggest modern firm, but frequently the best managed. Will Government Motors live as long? Will it last the 60 days? GM is managed and owned today by the US Government and our President (amongst his other duties in Europe). His minions are deciding today the constitution of the Board of Directors, on what basis you might rightly concern yourself. Will they all hail from Chicago, you fairly ask?

Well, in the last century, the euro-visigothian-sourced mythic and "noble" Aryans twice failed to lead us to the perfect man and heaven on this earth. Nor were the Steppe-borne Attilla's of the Volga and Carpathians, despite their 70 years of practice and 60 million murders and their nuclear-tipped spear-chuckers, able to perfect modern man, despite Marxian certitude and voluminous logical but broken promises.

These were all Socialisms, National or Communist. They all knew that "modern man" could be developed and 'trained' to act in collective interest, like ants or bees. They ignored the social examples and behaviors of wolves and hyenas; but that is what mostly emerged, didn't it?

So, as the islamoNazi Persians threaten us, while we subdue and re-train the Assyrian civilization, shall we now let the Upper-Nile Ethiopians or pseudo-Nubians down the street further perfect the Great Marxian promise upon us and chaste our ways? Will Bill Ayres Prairie Fire be prophetic?

What drives their wish to perfect us? Is it the self-loathing of their other perhaps better-half, festering racial hatreds implanted by the party cadre upon a lonely child or simply human ego, misplaced personal pride and the colossal narcissism of a pampered man-child with no paternal guidance, pride and respect?

Do we imagine running Detroit, Washington and New York will be enough for any mortal? Does the King ever have enough wives?

Lord, save us from those who wish to save us from ourselves.

[Buzz]

Originally Posted by What'saCobra?

So, as the islamoNazi Persians threaten us, while we subdue and re-train the Assyrian civilization, shall we now let the Upper-Nile Ethiopians or pseudo-Nubians down the street further perfect the Great Marxian promise upon us and chaste our ways? Will Bill Ayres Prairie Fire be prophetic?

Good points made, and well put; but don't you think that likening the policies and actions of one man of mixed ancestry to "the Upper-Nile Ethiopians or pseudo-Nubians" imposing their vision of Marxist utopia on western society just a bit of a stretch?

[Dwight]

just saw this on AOL news

Dwight
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a cursory analysis of the evolution of executive compensation over the past few decades is enough to bring out one's inner Karl Marx. By now, the statistics are pretty well-known, but let's review them one more time: in 1982, the average CEO made 42 times as much as the average worker; by 1990, they were making 107 times as much as their employees, and by 2007, 275 times as much. This meant, incidentally, that the average CEO made more in one workday than the average employee made all year.

Some studies have suggested that employees don't begrudge their bosses the extra pay as long as the company is doing well. However, even by that metric, CEO compensation has grown out of control. With companies lining up to take government bailouts, it is worth asking exactly what companies are getting for their money. One can only imagine the feelings of AIG's rank-and-file employees, and the attitude among low-level workers at Merrill Lynch must be downright mutinous.

At its base level, the incredible disparity between CEO pay and that of rank-and-file workers suggests an out-sized veneration of the executive suite. Based on pure numbers, the idea seems to be that every CEO is worth 270 trained workers. Disturbing enough as that is, this perspective also goes a long way toward explaining the massive decline in customer service over the past few years.

[Keithc8]

This seems to be a problem with big companies these days. I feel that these CEOs need to be concerned about this and how it effects employee moral. Being the owner of a Company myself I worry about what my employees think of my work habits and what I have. I try to work more than any of my employees and with the hours that I put in I do not make a lot more than they do. I feel that if you are out of lne of this stuff that your quality and employee performace will suffer.
I try to do some things for my guys to keep them motivated and let them know I appreciate their work. I know that I am small compared to these guys but it sounds like they need to get back to basics with both upper management and the union if they want to stay in business.