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Old 12-21-2008, 09:32 AM
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http://ammunitionaccountability.org/Technology.htm

Well, while I am not a fan of big brother legislation, I fail to see how this will affect the average gun user (hunter, sportsman) other than cost. The cost part sucks. I think if money is recovered in a crime involving guns, the victims should get part of it (if possible) and part should go to offset costs of tagging. It sucks that 99% of responsible gun owners have to finance this effort for the 1% who do bad things.

Laser tagging is coming soon for use in cars and other expensive items to make it harder for criminals to hide the evidence.

Also, if this legislation fails to enact nationally, then ammo sales in states that have the etching will nosedive and correspondly rise in states that do not have it... making the law another farce. I find it hard to believe it pass in states like mine (Alabama).

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Old 12-21-2008, 09:40 AM
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Well, while I am not a fan of big brother legislation, I fail to see how this will affect the average gun user (hunter, sportsman) other than cost. Mike
"People would be required to separately register every box of “encoded ammunition” and the registration would be supplied to the police. Each box of ammunition would have a unique serial number, thus a separate registration. Gun owners would have to maintain records if they sell ammunition to anyone, including family members or friends."

Besides the cost,I have a problem with registering each or any ammo.

I noticed they haven't tried submitting this Bill in Texas,YET.
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Again Fred, I am not advocating anything. One more layer of crap legislation on top of more. Anyhow, if this is not enacted federally, the whole thing will not work. And, it will end up being ignored. Also, if anything breaks down in the records process, then the whole thing implodes. Like the folks on the website mention, a tagged bullet at a crime scene does not tell you who pulled the trigger. And criminals will NOT buy their ammo at the gun store.

I am not affraid of this legislation. Although the idea has some merrits, its implementation will cost too much and never produce the general certainty that its progenitors would like to see.

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Bomelia ... you should be very afraid of this pending legislation as it will only be the first step . Look at what has happened in the UK and Australia where no can own a firearm . In the past , some of these organizations have openly stated that their purpose was to make ammo so expensive that no one could afford it and the next step would be the guns .
It`s the classic camel`s nose under the tent deal . If enacted , the only people affected will be the law abiding folks .... do you really think the bad guys will follow the law ? This does NOT have to be enacted Federally to act as a catalyst ... if enough States pass it , then the Feds can say this is what the people want and issue a Country wide ban .... again , only the first step.
It also makes me wonder why they are so anxious to get guns out of the hands of the people ??
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They want it so only crooks can have guns and since all of them are liars and crooks, they would be exempt from any of this crap. The marked bullet stuff is moronic. So you buy a box and have to pay an exorbitant sum to register it after you have paid twice what it should cost to start with and I come along and grab a few of yours when you are at the range and not looking. If we both have 45s and I decide to shoot someone with one of your bullets, then they will have a devil of a time and spend untold amounts of money trying to make it match the rifling in your gun. More moronic legislation by a bunch of idiots that have no idea about anything but imposing their ideas on everyone. But try and take away one of their rights and watch them cry.
I am a lifetime member of the NRA and the January issue of the magazine has some good articles in it that all gun owners should read. Especially about that ***** Brady and her group. They had some of it on Obama's web site but it has been removed now.

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You should worry. The gun thing is just the start of their stripping away all of our rights. And this dam state will be leading the parade.

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I am not affraid of this legislation. Although the idea has some merrits, its implementation will cost too much and never produce the general certainty that its progenitors would like to see.
If that's true, it's because you haven't given it enough thought. Do you own a gun? - if so, and some of your serialized ammo manages to get stolen, or you leave a serialized empty case at the range, and that ammo winds up at a crime scene you are instantly going to be arrested. It will be up to you to prove your innocence - apart from the wholly specious nature of the charges, there is cost involved that you will not recover. And time. And reputation that may cost you your job, or future jobs.

Lovely, eh?

Yes, it will cost too much to administer; yes, there is no certainty it would work; yes, the technology to apply a serial # to each and every bullet and case is still in the works. Not a problem to the anti's as they're not terribly concerned with the minutiae of pragmatism - their funding also doesn't come out of their pockets, like yours does.

As expressed by Bobcat, getting this law is a piece of the pie, facilitating more to come. Individually they're all reasonable, right? - who could complain about waiting a day go get their new gun? Or who could complain about one-gun-a-month laws? How many do you need, anyway?

That's none of their business. Comparable to demanding confiscation of your Cobra since it doesn't get 40+mpg and emits 10 times the noxious greenhouse gases that their Prius' do. How many and how often is the concern of the buyer - there are more than enough laws to regulate those purchases and they actually do work. Microstamping of ammo is a total farce which - so far - has been seen that way by most.....the fact that it gets enough of an audience to actually wind up as a bill in anybody's house of government is what is scary.
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I own several. I also realize that liberals use step by step legislation to strip rights. But if you fail to attack "the attack" appropriately, then you will lose. Read everything on their website to fully understand their POV and angle of attack. I know based on their info that the biggest impact to me is cost. If their approach works, it will prove that 1% of gun owners are idiots. Something we already know.

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