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[427 S/O]

Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 3:43 PM







Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 2:24 PM
Subject: WHY FLY CHINA AIRLINES?



Thought you would be interested in this minor maintenance problem.


Consider this before catching that cheap flight on China Air.

For anyone who is not familiar with a jet engine, a jet fan blade should be PERFECTLY smooth.

A pilot for a Chinese carrier requested permission and landed at FRA (Frankfurt,Germany) for an unscheduled refueling stop. The reason became soon apparent to the ground crew: The Number 3 engine had been shutdown previously because of excessive vibration, and because it didn't look too good. It had apparently been no problem for the tough guys on the ground back in China: as they took some sturdy straps and wrapped them around two of the fan blades and the structures behind, thus stopping any unwanted wind-milling (engine spinning by itself due to airflow passing thru the blades during flight) and associated uncomfortable vibration caused by the sub optimal fan.





Note that the straps are seat-belts ....how resourceful! After making the "repairs", off they went into the wild blue yonder with another revenue-making flight on only three engines! With the increased fuel consumption, they got a bit low on fuel, and just set it down at the closest airport (FRA) for a quick refill.

That's when the problems started: The Germans, who are kind of picky about this stuff, inspected the malfunctioning engine and immediately grounded the aircraft. (Besides the seat-belts, notice the appalling condition of the fan blades.) The airline operator had to send a chunk of money to get the first engine replaced (took about 10 days). The repair contractor decided to do some impromptu inspection work on the other engines, none of which looked all that great either. The result: a total of 3 engines were eventually changed on this plane before it was permitted to fly again.













And we were worried about toys with lead paint!













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[427 S/O]

Consider this before catching that cheap flight on China Air.

For anyone who is not familiar with a jet engine, a jet fan blade should be PERFECTLY smooth.

A pilot for a Chinese carrier requested permission and landed at FRA (Frankfurt,Germany) for an unscheduled refueling stop. The reason became soon apparent to the ground crew: The Number 3 engine had been shutdown previously because of excessive vibration, and because it didn't look too good. It had apparently been no problem for the tough guys on the ground back in China: as they took some sturdy straps and wrapped them around two of the fan blades and the structures behind, thus stopping any unwanted wind-milling (engine spinning by itself due to airflow passing thru the blades during flight) and associated uncomfortable vibration caused by the sub optimal fan.





Note that the straps are seat-belts ....how resourceful! After making the "repairs", off they went into the wild blue yonder with another revenue-making flight on only three engines! With the increased fuel consumption, they got a bit low on fuel, and just set it down at the closest airport (FRA) for a quick refill.

That's when the problems started: The Germans, who are kind of picky about this stuff, inspected the malfunctioning engine and immediately grounded the aircraft. (Besides the seat-belts, notice the appalling condition of the fan blades.) The airline operator had to send a chunk of money to get the first engine replaced (took about 10 days). The repair contractor decided to do some impromptu inspection work on the other engines, none of which looked all that great either. The result: a total of 3 engines were eventually changed on this plane before it was permitted to fly again.

[Jamo]

Perry...next time you're going to cut and paste from an e-mail, try to do better than a Chinese airline mechanic. Delete the unnecessary stuff and close up all the white space. Thanks.

That is indeed scary.

[Wes Tausend]

Originally Posted by 427 S/O

Consider this before catching that cheap flight on China Air.

For anyone who is not familiar with a jet engine, a jet fan blade should be PERFECTLY smooth...

...The reason became soon apparent to the ground crew: The Number 3 engine had been shutdown previously because of excessive vibration, and because it didn't look too good. It had apparently been no problem for the tough guys on the ground back in China: as they took some sturdy straps and wrapped them around two of the fan blades and the structures behind, thus stopping any unwanted wind-milling (engine spinning by itself due to airflow passing thru the blades during flight) and associated uncomfortable vibration caused by the sub optimal fan.

Note that the straps are seat-belts ....how resourceful! After making the "repairs", off they went into the wild blue yonder with another revenue-making flight on only three engines!.......

Geez Perry,

You'd think they coulda ground those rock dents outta the blades and re-balanced them by eye ...like I do my lawnmower blades.

If I do fly anywhere in this economy, I'm going to see if I can inspect the plane myself first.
If I see an engine like this one, then I'll only sit on the good side of the aisle.

Wes


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[tcrist]

I had to send that to my son. He is a jet mechanic in the Navy.

Terry

[Tommy]

This story has been circulating for several years and is likely not entirely true.
http://www.snopes.com/photos/airplane/airchina.asp

[VRM]

It would not surprise me if it were true. I spent 6 months in China, a lot of it solo. I flew on a plane with chickens in the overhead and a goat tied to a hitching post in the rear holding area were we boarded from (we boarded up a ramp from the back of the plane - it was some Russain model). This was a 6 hour flight from Beijing to Urumqui with no first class and seats designed for tiny Chinese butts. There were no seat assignments - you just fought your way to whatever seat you wanted.

They also ran a modem cable in through a building window. During monsoon season! Water ended up pouring in through the window, and the main power feeds for the systems we were building were laid out on the floor.

Good times...

[427 S/O]

Jamo, accidently reply before confirming image would appear!. Sorry.

[Fred Douglass]

(That some Russian models look like goats!)

Hoy!

[tcrist]

This is the answer that I received from my son.

Wow, what the f--- were they thinking.

Terry

[trularin]

There is no telling what someone will do when properly motivated.

Where the heck is that poster???

[Fred Douglass]

...who still own more water buffalo than cars and raise their rice in flooded field laced with yoomin poop?

Yah, they own all our debt-----thanks to short-sighted "business" dorks. Yet, they want to steal our mil-tech, scramble our compootahz, shove our navy aside and invade Taiwan. Good luck. (O'course making our military ops utterly and totally dependent on compootahz is lunacy)*!

Chow-duh

*o'course #2, you must temper my rants with the fact that I was a Weaps Occifer on a pre-missile, all gun DD---talk aboot a troglodyte!

[VRM]

Originally Posted by Fred Douglass

...who still own more water buffalo than cars and raise their rice in flooded field laced with yoomin poop?

Yah, they own all our debt-----thanks to short-sighted "business" dorks. Yet, they want to steal our mil-tech, scramble our compootahz, shove our navy aside and invade Taiwan. Good luck. (O'course making our military ops utterly and totally dependent on compootahz is lunacy)*!

Chow-duh

*o'course #2, you must temper my rants with the fact that I was a Weaps Occifer on a pre-missile, all gun DD---talk aboot a troglodyte!

I would guess that it is harder to jam the 'guidance system' of a 16 inch shell than that of a missile. Still, how accurate are you going to be if your gun director gets taken out? And, Gee Whiz (), how are you going to shoot down inbound missiles without compootahz? Gonna pull that Gatling gun out on it's horse drawn gun carriage and fire away? Or are you going to use a trusty .50cal mount to take out an inbound 3 square feet small moving at 4000mph?

Steve

[Fred Douglass]

.......last time I checked WE (not the Chinese) were the last to use 16" rifles and, although I served in Crypto.....I'm not exactly sure whatcherpoint is.....


Ar-r-ar-ar-ooooogle!

[VRM]

Freddie,
Seemed perfectly understandable to me (provided you know your history and I know you do).
Ever since the Nagato got nuked we are the only ones to have 16 inch rifles. The Chinese would use Silkworms, and it is possible that we might be able to jam the guidance systems, or otherwise shoot them down. It is not possible to do that without compootahz.
On the other hand, shooting down a salvo from the New Jersey is going to be a bit tricky...