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02-19-2009, 12:39 PM
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Well, when are you going to take responsibility for the candidate you had in office for the last 8 years who managed to double the national debt? Lets just double your taxes to cover it. Learn to take responsibility for your actions.
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Bush [a closet Democrat] did double the National Debt in 8 years and I, an Independent, did vote for him both times. So I take my share of the responsibility. Some responsibility must go on those who put up Gore and Kerry too. Bush was bad, but the easy best choice over those dummies!
And if doubling the debt in 8 years is bad, AND IT IS! How is doubling it again in half that time GOOD???? And at the present rate, we will easily double the debt in less than 4 years.
Admitting Bush was bad or kidding oneself that he wasn't, is not any kind of a prediction of the new guy. And so far he looks like a brain damaged Jimmy Carter. Or worse, an eloquent Pelosi PUPPET!
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02-20-2009, 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Dan40
Bush [a closet Democrat] did double the National Debt in 8 years and I, an Independent, did vote for him both times. So I take my share of the responsibility. Some responsibility must go on those who put up Gore and Kerry too. Bush was bad, but the easy best choice over those dummies!
And if doubling the debt in 8 years is bad, AND IT IS! How is doubling it again in half that time GOOD???? And at the present rate, we will easily double the debt in less than 4 years.
Admitting Bush was bad or kidding oneself that he wasn't, is not any kind of a prediction of the new guy. And so far he looks like a brain damaged Jimmy Carter. Or worse, an eloquent Pelosi PUPPET!
Dan
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Dan,
I actually think that Kerry and Gore would have caused us less harm than Bush, though in specific areas I give Bush credit for doing the right thing (right after 9-11 for example) that I doubt Gore or Kerry would have. I think Kerry would have been very indecisive, but doing nothing may be better than making the wrong decision almost all the time like the Bush administration did. There is no way to prove or disprove any of this. Watch, though - I will be called names for even saying it.
I did not vote for Obama, and I disagree strongly with the majority of items in this spending bill. Obama is doing the wrong thing - McCain would have done the wrong thing also, but his wrong thing would be a different wrong thing that would have us end up in just as much debt (or more as the numbers indicate that the GOP borrows and spends).
We, as a country, need to wake up and realise that neither party is what we think it is or want it to be. And we need to start voting accordingly.
Steve
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02-20-2009, 09:09 AM
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Steve,
I am afraid that "We as a country" are no longer relevant. These people will have it so they can't be removed from office except by force within a year or so. Letting us vote is just a way of keeping to many people with the power to actually get rid of some of these fools now from doing it.
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02-20-2009, 02:10 PM
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removed from office except by force
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Fine by me...
I need a Rambo smiley.

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02-23-2009, 04:42 PM
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Fine by me...
I need a Rambo smiley.

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You may need one, but only true Conservatives can use Rambo smilies...
Rasmussen poll: 76% percent don't want to pay higher taxes to pay their neighbor's mortgages
Thank God for a bucketload of sanity. Will it change what these IDIOTS are doing? Nope.
Personally I give it 6 months before Congress critters start getting nailed by pi$$ed off citizens.
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02-23-2009, 06:32 PM
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Rasmussen poll: 76% percent don't want to pay higher taxes to pay their neighbor's mortgages
Personally I give it 6 months before Congress critters start getting nailed by pi$$ed off citizens.
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"You cannot legislate the poor into freedom by legislating the wealthy out of freedom. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that my dear friend, is about the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it."
– The late Dr. Adrian Rogers , 1931 to 2005
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02-24-2009, 09:25 AM
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"You cannot legislate the poor into freedom by legislating the wealthy out of freedom. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that my dear friend, is about the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it."
– The late Dr. Adrian Rogers , 1931 to 2005
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Now, that is a great quote.
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02-20-2009, 04:12 PM
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Chris "What 5.5 million-dollar sweetheart deal?" Dodd just said:
"....the banks may have to be nationalized, but THAT SHOULD JUST BE TEMPORARY....."
TEMPORARY? Hoohahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahaha! Temporary? OMG! Now THAT guy's got a sense of humor!
Heeeeeeeeeeere we go, gang!
I betcha that NOT ONE of these magical and miraculous provisions of the First Thirty Days of the Messiah will ever be undone or reversed. (Remember those ACORN voters are reproducing like rabbits!).
This (like our cars) is going to be one amazing ride!
Carrion,
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02-20-2009, 11:45 AM
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Dan,
I actually think that Kerry and Gore would have caused us less harm than Bush, though in specific areas I give Bush credit for doing the right thing (right after 9-11 for example) that I doubt Gore or Kerry would have. I think Kerry would have been very indecisive, but doing nothing may be better than making the wrong decision almost all the time like the Bush administration did. There is no way to prove or disprove any of this. Watch, though - I will be called names for even saying it.
I did not vote for Obama, and I disagree strongly with the majority of items in this spending bill. Obama is doing the wrong thing - McCain would have done the wrong thing also, but his wrong thing would be a different wrong thing that would have us end up in just as much debt (or more as the numbers indicate that the GOP borrows and spends).
We, as a country, need to wake up and realise that neither party is what we think it is or want it to be. And we need to start voting accordingly.
Steve
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I agree that doing nothing would be better than the "Stimulus Plan."
Pain IS going to be felt in this economic downturn. No plan would allow the pain to be felt by those who thought they were beating the system. Instead of by us paying for their corruption.
I think Gore and/or Kerry would have been much worse than Bush. Just as Obama is going to be.
I agree McCain would have made wrong moves too, any politicians available today would.
I think McCain 'took' one for the Party. I think the GOP KNEW they had NO chance after Bush and McCain's career is in twilight, so he was the 'lamb' sent to slaughter. I think the GOP was surprised it wasn't Hillary that got the nod but they had made their bed by then.
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