10 Cars That Sank Detroit

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Originally Posted by SP01715

The Ford family would get payed nothing if they recieved government help because all their income comes from stock dividends. I think that is the main reason they are not accepting money.

The real reason is that Ford was lucky enough to refinance their short term debt PRIOR to the current financial mess with the banks. GM and Chrysler were unlucky enough to have to refinance their short term debt after the banks became unable to make NEW loans due to their toxic assets. Since GM and Chrysler cannot get the banks to refinance their short term debt, they are asking the government to LOAN them money (which is different than asking for a handout). Then you get politician involved with GM and Chrysler..., which is why Ford is lucky they timed their refinancing when they did.

Notice that I said the GM and Chysler are asking for LOANS from the government. Are the banks asking for LOANS? No. The banks want to get rid of their toxic assets, which is what the government originally said they would buy. Hmm, maybe I could sell the contents of my septic tank to the government instead of paying someone to empty it every few years... But is the government buying the toxic assets, or are they buying up shares in the banks and forcing mergers instead?

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Here is a link to story from the Detroit News. I have heard this same thing from several sources, so I think there is definitely something to it.

http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0oGkk0qCO...382/1148/rss25

Here is part of the article.

But Ford Motor Co. has even more reason than the rest to resist. A Chapter 11 filing would put the Ford family on par with other shareholders, stripping its Class B shares of the super-voting power that gives the family control of the company.

Even if Congress approves a bailout, the proposed legislation would require companies that take federal dollars to forgo using the money to pay dividends to investors. Ford Motor Co. suspended its dividend payments two years ago, but restoring them is a priority for many members of the Ford family who had come to rely on dividends for income. That may be why Ford has suggested that it would hold off on taking any federal aid until the automaker really needs it.

"We were asking essentially for a line of credit to draw upon if needed," Executive Chairman Bill Ford Jr. told National Public Radio on Tuesday. "We hope that we never need to use it."

The family's control of Ford has long been the subject of controversy among shareholders. Now, tensions are said to be rising within the family as the company's stock -- and the personal fortunes that depend on it -- dwindles to its lowest value in decades.

Ford is in a stronger financial position than General Motors Corp. and Chrysler LLC, but just barely. And while CEO Alan Mulally says his company does not need a federal bailout to survive, Ford is joining its Detroit rivals in asking for financial assistance from Washington.

Ford executives have said publicly that bankruptcy is not an option. The company has enough cash to stay out of bankruptcy court at least until 2010, when the full benefits of its new contract with the United Auto Workers kick in -- though a GM bankruptcy could force Ford to follow suit.

But the numbers have never been bleaker for the Ford family. It now controls the Dearborn automaker through its ownership of less than $118 million in stock. Few want to pick a public fight with the Fords, but many Wall Street analysts say this makes their continuing control of the Dearborn automaker hard to justify because it is such a small percentage of the company's total value of nearly $4 billion.

"It's a stretch," said one analyst, who did not wish to be identified. "It's going to get hard and harder to justify."