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04-21-2009, 09:34 AM
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I understood his hand was injured by the sailors on the freighter when he was first captured by them? The injury, how ever he recieved it, is a good example of how difficult it is to get the facts from news reports!
It seems logical he would be deported back to Africa after serving his sentence.
The official position of the US is that they don't negotiate in cases like this (kidnapping, hostage taking, etc.). But the fact is there is often a "wink and nod" involved and money or goods do change hands to secure the release of captives in some cases. For instance in this case and in most of these cases it is left up the owners of the ship to negotiate for release and the US, as well as other countries, generally do not interfere. Family members may negotiate a release in some cases without the official involvement of Government.
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04-21-2009, 09:41 AM
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Although one would not believe it at times, there is a substantial time difference between the time of Spartans and now.

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04-21-2009, 10:03 AM
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And yet even today the military still studies the 'ancients' for their techniques of war and in some cases find brilliant strategies. Like dumping the negotiators in a very deep pit...
The "official" Government line here is that the Captains life was in imminent danger. Gun being held to his back and all that. But it could have been little more than they had a shot, took it, and justified the action by deeming it an "imminent danger" situation. Regardless of the facts either way, they did what needed to be done. Could they have done it sooner than four days into the saga? We'll never know for sure.
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04-21-2009, 02:42 PM
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Like I said in another thread, it was only a matter of time until the liberals came out to defend the pirates. 
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04-21-2009, 04:08 PM
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SP01715, even mass murders are allowed legal counsel in order to assure all the rules of law are followed before the hangin'.
The question remains:
WHAT "principles of truce in warfare" is Kuby refering to? How would that apply to this case? I can't find much using Google, other than, references to Kuby himself saying it.
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04-22-2009, 10:11 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Excaliber
SP01715, even mass murders are allowed legal counsel in order to assure all the rules of law are followed before the hangin'.
The question remains:
WHAT "principles of truce in warfare" is Kuby refering to? How would that apply to this case? I can't find much using Google, other than, references to Kuby himself saying it.
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I used to work in law enforcement, I understand the right to counsel. I am reffering to the ACLU and other liberal types that always take the other side and defend people that are enemies of the USA with ridiculous arguments. I am talking about the liberals that are saying we should not have shot the other three pirates. Just like after 9/11, I knew the day we were being attacked it was only a matter of time before the liberals found a way to blame us. It's always the same with the America haters.
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