Should anybody be charged with a crime for torture?

[computerworks]

...tsk tsk.... gonna close another one soon, I guess.

You two kids just can't get along, can you?

[Excaliber]

Water boarding is torture, that is recognized by the last as well as the current administration. Some remain in denial over the issue, thankfully there not running the country!

The real question is: If someone you loved could die if you didn't take all reasonable steps to secure information from a person that knowingly had information that would save your loved one, would you use coercive interrogation techniques, such as waterboarding to secure the information?

If you believe in Machiavelli, the end justifies the means, then why stop at merely waterboarding to secure the information? Break his bones, kill him, whatever it takes.

I don't believe in Machiavelli, the are some things that are just so repugnant that death is preffered over dishonor.

On another topic, so VRM can't post on a CDC thread but CDC can post on a VRM thread? OOOkkkkkk...

Wikipedia
"In contrast to submerging the head face-forward in water, waterboarding precipitates a gag reflex almost immediately.[13] The technique does not inevitably cause lasting physical damage. It can cause extreme pain, dry drowning, damage to lungs, brain damage from oxygen deprivation, other physical injuries including broken bones due to struggling against restraints, lasting psychological damage or, ultimately, death.[4] Adverse physical consequences can start manifesting months after the event; psychological effects can last for years.[14]"

The matter should be considered for the potential of prosecution, I do hope prosecution does not happen. But the facts need to come out, some how, some way so we can avoid this issue in the future.

[Dan40]

Originally Posted by Excaliber

Water boarding is torture, that is recognized by the last as well as the current administration. Some remain in denial over the issue, thankfully there not running the country!

The real question is: If someone you loved could die if you didn't take all reasonable steps to secure information from a person that knowingly had information that would save your loved one, would you use coercive interrogation techniques, such as waterboarding to secure the information?

If you believe in Machiavelli, the end justifies the means, then why stop at merely waterboarding to secure the information? Break his bones, kill him, whatever it takes.

I don't believe in Machiavelli, the are some things that are just so repugnant that death is preffered over dishonor.

On another topic, so VRM can't post on a CDC thread but CDC can post on a VRM thread? OOOkkkkkk...

Wikipedia
"In contrast to submerging the head face-forward in water, waterboarding precipitates a gag reflex almost immediately.[13] The technique does not inevitably cause lasting physical damage. It can cause extreme pain, dry drowning, damage to lungs, brain damage from oxygen deprivation, other physical injuries including broken bones due to struggling against restraints, lasting psychological damage or, ultimately, death.[4] Adverse physical consequences can start manifesting months after the event; psychological effects can last for years.[14]"

The matter should be considered for the potential of prosecution, I do hope prosecution does not happen. But the facts need to come out, some how, some way so we can avoid this issue in the future.

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So the above definition could have been placed there by moveon.dum or Al Qeada. Or the DNC. Perhaps a committee of all of them.

Liberals don't want "harsh", NOT TORTURE, methods used. They want us to use the Army Field Manual.

OK.

What does it say about people captured out of uniform. People KNOWN to be co-conspirators and/or killers of non-combatant women and children?