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View Poll Results: Should anybody be charged with a crime for torture?
It is not a crime and nobody should be charged...except the Clintons. 29 58.00%
It was a crime, but it was done for reasons of National Security. 6 12.00%
Only the lawyers should be prosecuted. 5 10.00%
The Bush Administration, Congress, and the lawyers should be charged with war crimes. 8 16.00%
They should all be charged, and while we are at it the Clintons should be charged for their crimes also. 2 4.00%
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Old 04-30-2009, 07:27 PM
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77 posts and none of you got it right including my wife's relative from Japan konnichiha...Tatsushige

Torture is short term pain to gain an advantage over someone in your control.

The poll should have include one more question.

Are taxes torture?

Would you be water boarded or accept losing a fingernail or two so that you would never have to pay taxes again?

Think about it....

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Thanks guys for the welcome. Nice to be here.

OK down to business.

Two wrongs do not make a right, just because someone does it to your citizens do you have to lower yourself down to their level and behave the same?


The West including the UK and my Home Country Australia all claim they are better than others and we BEHAVE civilized in time of war, yet we seem to support the same barbaric actions that terrorist and the likes support, and torture is barbaric. There has been cases were people have been tortured and died yet they have had nothing to do with terrorism, example of this was the taxi driver in Afghanistan that had his legs broken and was beat to death.

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Afghan prisoners were 'tortured to death' by American guards

Shocking and detailed accounts have emerged of how two Afghan prisoners were tortured to death by American interrogators and prison guards at Bagram air base, outside Kabul.

Shocking and detailed accounts have emerged of how two Afghan prisoners were tortured to death by American interrogators and prison guards at Bagram air base, outside Kabul.

A 2,000-page report on an internal investigation by the US military leaked to The New York Times and published yesterday provides exhaustive detail on how the two were kept chained in excruciating positions and kicked to death.

READ STORY HERE

An autopsy found that Dilawar died of heart failure caused by "blunt force injuries to the lower extremities". The coroner, Lieutenant-Colonel Elizabeth Rouse, told a pre-trial hearing that his legs "had basically been pulpified ... I've seen similar injuries in an individual run over by a bus."
Now the US was complaining a few months back about Iran training assassinations squads to enter Iraq and cause trouble, but the USA was doing the same in Pakistan training assassination squads to enter Iran to cause trouble.

How can we in the WEST say you CANNOT do this and that, and then we do what we tell others they cannot do?

Two Wrong do not make a RIGHT, and we in the West are hated because we try to FORCE our beliefs, ideas and cultures on to others, and trust me I see it here in Japan, when you have Aussies, Brits and Yanks all say that they do not need to learn Japanese because English is the world’s language and the Japanese should learn English, they abuse Japanese that do not understand English and when they do this it make others like myself that live here look just as uneducated and ARROGRANT as the Tourists that are abusive toward the Japanese.

OH and the most spoken language in Mandarin Chinese, just in case you were wondering.

I support WAR on the GROUND of HUMANITARIAN REASONS eg, Sudan and Burma needs to be sorted out, also North Korea needs to have their doors kicked in. But Afghanistan was only invaded because they refused to hand over Osama, Iraq was invaded so Bush Jr could finish what daddy started. Both have made the WEST more hated around the globe.








PS Sorry for any spelling mistakes, been in Japan for 6 years and do not use English much now days!
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