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If this works out it could be good for Chrysler.

http://www.reuters.com/article/busin...e=businessNews

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If this works out it could be good for Chrysler.
http://www.reuters.com/article/busin...e=businessNewsRon
Maybe, but without some serious long-range business plan changes, its just kicking the can on down the road in my opinion.
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I think Fiat running Chrysler will have the same outcome that the government and UAW running GM will have...

Guess we're down to one US car mfg. soon...

Although my Kirkham probably has more US components that my Chevy does. There is something ironic about a Polish copy of an English sports car with a copy of a Ford engine in it.

I need a beer, or two...
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There is something ironic about a Polish copy of an English sports car with a copy of a Ford engine in it.I need a beer, or two...
LMAO. Ironic AND iconic.
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Just saw this on the news. Chrysler is filing for bankruptcy.

http://www.reuters.com/article/busin...e=businessNews

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Looks like those that own the hedge fund that provided funds to the company when it really needed funds do not want to play ball - seems that the UAW is ending up with more of the company, versus those that invested in the company......
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I would like to put this out for discussion .... did anyone notice that Chrysler is taking bankruptcy after the Govt. gained control of most of the banking system ? Also , it was announced the GMAC will now finance both Chrysler and GM cars/trucks .... and the UAW now controls both GM and Chrysler .... and the private bond holders get the shaft .
Other than Ford , the Govt . now controls the automobile industry in this country .... and how long can Ford hold out in the face of govt. backed competition ?
Also just heard that Cessna is handing out 1600 termination notices in Bend , OR since they have lost the fight with the govt. on the evil Corporate jets that were to be made there .
Looks like an Argentina style takeover of private industry is now in place .
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Seems to me I mentioned British Leyland a few months ago...
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I would like to put this out for discussion .... did anyone notice that Chrysler is taking bankruptcy after the Govt. gained control of most of the banking system ? Also , it was announced the GMAC will now finance both Chrysler and GM cars/trucks .... and the UAW now controls both GM and Chrysler .... and the private bond holders get the shaft .
Other than Ford , the Govt . now controls the automobile industry in this country .... and how long can Ford hold out in the face of govt. backed competition ?
Also just heard that Cessna is handing out 1600 termination notices in Bend , OR since they have lost the fight with the govt. on the evil Corporate jets that were to be made there .
Looks like an Argentina style takeover of private industry is now in place .
Well, the government has $4 Billion in Chrysler; Banks have $6 Billion in Chrysler; the government has $90 Billion in Banks; the government has $170 Billion in AIG (they insure practically all major entities....

Now, who is going to buy Chrysler cars after all this and why?

We are so screwed - should have stayed out of all this S--- and allow the chips to fall.
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and how long can Ford hold out in the face of govt. backed competition ?
Ummm...forever!

If the US Government were to design and build a car:

1. Thirty Federal agencies will submit designs, 8 will be approved in committee, and a combination of 11 designs will pass both the House and Senate. This process will repeat when the other party takes control a few years later.

2. When the DNC is in charge you will only be able to buy cheap economy cars with no horsepower.

3. When the GOP is in charge you will only be able to buy cars designed 80 years ago, because technological advances are too progressive.

4. GOP features include:
Bible Belts for safety devices.
Gunracks - up to 8 per vehicle.
Extra engine - just to burn even more gas.
You will only be able to go straight, unless you park it in a bathroom stall.
Jesus can be your co-pilot, but that is a weekly extra tithe option.
Cowcatcher - for getting those pesky pedestrians out of YOUR way.
AM radio that only plays the local Christian station and Rush Limbaugh.
Ten permanently mounted 'Support the Troops' emblems.
Rich Corinthian Leather made from dead baby seals and other cute animals.
Any colour can be ordered as long as it is RedState Red.

5. DNC mandatory options incllude:
Twelve point safety harnesses, multiple full body airbags, full face helmet, and Hans device.
An ultra fuel efficient engine that will run on anything, including Al Gore speeches.
Advanced electronics package to do everything for you, and including web access with the homepage permanently set to 'Move On'.
Plant/Animal Collision Avoidance system approved by PETA.
Heaters powered by global warming - air conditioners are against the law.
Any colour can be ordered as long as it is BlueState Blue or SaveThePlanet Green.

6. GOP cars will be built in Canada using slave labour because red state hillbillies are too uneducated to build cars. They will be so expensive that only the 20 richest people in the country will be able to afford one, and all profits will go to the CEOs.

7. DNC cars will be built right in America with union labour trained in the most advanced 19th century building techniques. Each employee will make up to $450 per hour, but each car will only cost $213. The taxpayers will make up the rest.

8. Nascar will race, and subsequently destroy, two GOP cars when they find out that it cannot turn at all, but can only stay the course. A French team will race the DNC car at the 24 Hours of LeMans. It will finish last in class, but will win the Index of Performance award for the highest average speed for the least fuel consumed. It will average 7mph over the entire 24 hours running on a small stale piece of French bread, and a mouldy smear of brie.

9. The GOP car will be called the Exceptional Rush of All American Patriotism, despite being built in Canada. The GOP will engage in a large propaganda campaign to convince everyone that the car really is American. The DNC car will be called The Peoples Moonbat.

10. It will take an act of Congress to make Americans buy either car.
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So, how many billions did we give them?, and all for nothing. Wanna bet this so called surgical bankruptcy will also be for naught...

Quote cdc, Boy! we are so screwed..
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are doomed to repeat its mistakes. Henry J., British Leyland come to mind in the last 70-years.

How long do you think it is going to be, assuming that nothing changes after UAW, Government & Fiat start running Chrysler, (meaning that they still are losing money), that the government starts calling for some kind of increased tax on imported cars? (recognizing how difficult this could become now that many of these are built in the deep south and are not represented by the UAW).

Boggles the imagination.
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Jamo ... you are 100% correct ... and I do remember your British Leyland comment . This just serves to showcase Govt. stupidity/arrogance . It failed before ( and I`m old enough to remember B L very well ) , but we can succeed this time because of who we are ..... change we can believe in .
When I said that I wondered how long Ford could hold up to govt. pressure , so far as I know , they are not controlled in any way by the govt.... yet . However , GM and Chrysler now have unlimited funds ... ours . If they want to undersell Ford and not make a profit ... not a big deal . Just get more of our money to prop up their loses . Or Congress can just legislate Ford out of business .
I see a major effort soon to bring Ford under govt. control .
Boy ... Ayn Rand was really able to forecast the future !
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Gm and Chrysler owned by the unions--it's only a matter of time before they REALLY bankrupt them again with there idiotic work rules. HOW DUMB IS OUR GOVERNMENT--don't answer i allready know!! GOD HELP US
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easy to understand given UAW support of the Democratic party though...payback time.

In a twisted way, it is going to be interesting to see how this plays out...
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55% union owned & 6 of nine board members selected by Fed gov. Add some more billions yet to go. If Daimler couldn't make decent cars with Chrysler, is there ANYONE who thinks that group can?
Any american that wants a real american car company to succeed, should buy a Ford.
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