Montana has signed into power a revolutionary gun law

[joyridin']

This will be interesting. I see two problems here.

1) Allowing anybody to buy a firearm is a bit ridiculous. It'll be funny to see the next Columbine taking place with guns that say "Made in Montana".
2) The minute a gun leaves the state and a crime is committed, all hell will break loose. Montana can secede, but they better have the funds to support themselves totally. When all the retirees lose their SS checks, I don't think it is going to play very well with them. Technically, the U.S. could patrol the skies around Montana and close all the highways in and out of the state. Hope they can make it.

[4RE KLR]

Originally Posted by joyridin'

This will be interesting. I see two problems here.

1) Allowing anybody to buy a firearm is a bit ridiculous. It'll be funny to see the next Columbine taking place with guns that say "Made in Montana". 2) The minute a gun leaves the state and a crime is committed, all hell will break loose. Montana can secede, but they better have the funds to support themselves totally. When all the retirees lose their SS checks, I don't think it is going to play very well with them. Technically, the U.S. could patrol the skies around Montana and close all the highways in and out of the state. Hope they can make it.

So Let me get this straight.
You actually think Columbine was FUNNY?

I need to take a deep breathe here to keep from getting ejected from this website!

[joyridin']

Originally Posted by 4RE KLR

So Let me get this straight.
You actually think Columbine was FUNNY?

I need to take a deep breathe here to keep from getting ejected from this website!

Columbine wasn't, but watching all the idiots defend why these kids were able to obtain guns and shoot up a school was. Like I said...it'll be funny the next time when the guns used say "Made in Montana" and they find out some kid was able to walk into the tore and just buy one.

I'm all for guns as per the Constitution. Unfortunately though, the Constitution doesn't give people the right to buy guns, or even the right to buy any type of gun. It gives you the right to have guns. If you really want to get technical, they could limit those guns to the true spirit of the Constitution and say only Muskets are what the writers of the Constitution had in mind since that was probably all that was available at the time.

But hey...ignorance is bliss right? Take a deep breath...or better yet, come on over here and I'll show you my gun collection.

[392cobra]

Originally Posted by joyridin'

I'm all for guns as per the Constitution. Unfortunately though, the Constitution doesn't give people the right to buy guns, or even the right to buy any type of gun. It gives you the right to have guns. If you really want to get technical, they could limit those guns to the true spirit of the Constitution and say only Muskets are what the writers of the Constitution had in mind since that was probably all that was available at the time.

But hey...ignorance is bliss right? .

You must be one happy sumb*tch then.

[Bartruff1]

I just love this kind of thinking...STATES RIGHTS.... IMHO the best thing that has happened in the last 50 years was the break up of the Soviet Union. Perhaps, just perhaps, this is one of those perfect storms when a combination of economic collaspe and the recognition of the right of self determination could lead to a peaceful breakup of the US. As I understand it States on both ends of the political spectrum (Vermont and Texas) have Separatists Movements. Everyone would benefit, the whole world would benefit. The cultural and value differences between the Red and Blue States is a bridge too far. I the more Iearn about the Civil War the more I am convinced that it was a tragic mistake and we have all suffered as a result of a hopeless attempt to preserve the Union. I know people say Texas is not big enough for a country and to big for an asylum but I believe they are wrong on both counts. Come Texas, show us the way !!!

[4RE KLR]

Originally Posted by 392cobra

You must be one happy sumb*tch then.

You beat me to it Fred.


NOTHING ABOUT COLUMBINE WAS FUNNY. NOT ONE SINGLE DAMNED THING. It would not be funny if it happened again and the damned guns had made in or by Mattel, made in China, Montreal, Hecho in Mexico, Thailand of BFE either.

Maybe if you had lost a child in Columbine your dumb-ass statement would be re-worded to be a little more less self centered.


If you have a gun collection I am happy for you. I have one to, big f-ing deal most people in Texas have at least one... collection.


Note To Moderator:
Sorry for the rant, A hell of a lot of innocent children were killed in Columbine.



BTW:
This was not directed to you Fred, I think you know that.

[Ron61]

Steve,

Though Columbine was the start, it seems that the press who I blame for a lot of this, has made school shooting almost a normal thing. With all of their coverage, they make every border line kid that wants a few moments of fame look at that and say, boy I can get on TV. There is nothing at all funny about any shooting no matter how many or the cause, even in self defense. That taking of a human life, even if you are defending yourself is not something to take lightly as so many seem to. And yes, if I was forced into a position where I had no other choice I would shoot a person but I am not sure how well I could live with it later on. We just had 3 teen agers here that beat an old man to death for, Quoting the 18 year old here, " We wanted to have some fun so we decided to kill a bum." One walked up in front of him and the other two came up behind him with an iron bar and oak table leg and smashed his head in. They are still talking about what a rush it was, and now the police have found out they were involved in the beating of another teen a few weeks ago. Now that is a sad state of affairs when you have to have 3 in great shape teens gang up and use stuff like that and kill an old man just for fun. Also as a side thought, he was a Vietnam war vet and had won a couple of medals but just couldn't adjust to the normal way of life like so many can't after they served there.

Ron

[Buzz]

"They're out here tearin' up the levee so I shot them". Poster children for the anti gun movement.


http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,519631,00.html

[Wayne Maybury]

Originally Posted by joyridin'

This will be interesting. I see two problems here.

Technically, the U.S. could patrol the skies around Montana and close all the highways in and out of the state. Hope they can make it.

Technically, I think you are incorrect. The U.S. could patrol Montana's East, West, and South borders, but not it's rather long Northern border which it shares with Saskatchewan, Alberta, and Britsh Columbia.

I can understand most of this bill but I really wonder if it is wise to include no background checks.

Wayne

[392cobra]

Originally Posted by joyridin'

This will be interesting. I see two problems here.

1) Allowing anybody to buy a firearm is a bit ridiculous. .

People already are.

The only people going through a background check are the "Good Guys".
Criminal's don't buy firearms legally. DUH.

Check out countries that don't trust their citizens to bear arms.GG's are unarmed and the criminals are armed.

So once we get past that ignorant arguement....It is a Right.Same as Free Speech.

[Ron61]

....It is a Right.Same as Free Speech.

Which will soon be gone if people don't start to wake up and stand up to this bunch we have in Congress and other high places. They had better use their power to vote while they still have that right.

Ron

[bomelia]

I too wonder about NOT doing background checks. Why? For sure, that little tidbit alone will create a blackmarket in illegal gun trade. Maybe it was thrown in as a bargaining chip. It could also be Supreme Court bait.

But for the rest of it, I support the legislation.

Mike

[Dan40]

I agree with the post above that criminals WILL acquire guns regardless of any regulations.

I also agree that background checks, "sounds like a good idea!"

So does 'reform our health care system'. "Sounds like a good idea!"

AND
Reform our education system. "Sounds like a good idea!"
OR
Become energy independent. "Sounds like a good idea!"

"SOUNDS LIKE A GOOD IDEA!" is the basic building block of the left wingers bastardization of the American way of life.

They don't say, "We are going to Socialize American business." They say, "We cannot let OUR auto industry fail!"

They foist a fine sounding idea on the distracted public, get the OK to implement the "good idea!" And turn it into a pork packed, insane, spending spree, and power grab. And the laws passed to implement the "good idea," are always loaded up with VERY BAD IDEAS!

Way to go Mt. and Tx.

[Tom Kirkham]

Interesting discussion on the impact of this law on the Glenn Beck show with a retired Judge. The case might just narrow the definition of the interstate commerce clause in the Constitution...

Here is a link to the video:
http://logisticsmonster.com/2009/05/...er-hear-about/

[joyridin']

Originally Posted by 392cobra

People already are.

The only people going through a background check are the "Good Guys".
Criminal's don't buy firearms legally. DUH.

Check out countries that don't trust their citizens to bear arms.GG's are unarmed and the criminals are armed.

So once we get past that ignorant arguement....It is a Right.Same as Free Speech.

Oh really? ALL bad guys get their guns illegally huh? So an illegal alien that want to shoot up his former employer that couldn't buy a gun legally before can now just walk into a store and buy one now. Yeah...that's real bright. DUH!

Sounds like it is an ignorant argument, but a simple background check isn't the ignorant part.