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Old 06-03-2009, 10:45 PM
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"neo-cons" have no record of excessive spending, so why include them? It's the RINOS in Congress that increased spending, along with the demobulbs, during the W years.

We need more Conservatives in Congress - small government types.
Mr. Bush (the neo-con) started this crap with his paltry 700 Billion, and in my book thats still damned excessive!
And yes, we need more true conservatives in Congress.
Finally, the government via BoBo has a plan...to forgive all the cash pumped into them so far, as well as what is surely coming.
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And yes, we need more true conservatives in Congress.
Yep, there is maybe a handful in there right now. The rest have fooled Republican voters into thinking that the rest of them are conservatives.

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Mr. Bush (the neo-con) started this crap with his paltry 700 Billion, and in my book thats still damned excessive!
And yes, we need more true conservatives in Congress.
Finally, the government via BoBo has a plan...to forgive all the cash pumped into them so far, as well as what is surely coming.
W wasn't perfect, for sure.

Question - what definition are you giving to a 'neo-con'?

The true definition is very elusive - neocons include Charles Krauthammer, Paul Wolfowitz, maybe Dick Cheney and his aide, Scooter Libby, Doug Feith in the Pentagon, Bill Kristol. Do you have problems with this group of people?

Now, a neo-con may have at some point in time been a liberal -the cliche was because "they were mugged by reality," but it was because they saw the empirical failures of liberal welfare, state and foreign policies, and they were therefore less ideological than other conservatives and brought much more of a social science background to their argumentation. Not a bad way to go.

Review some of Krauthammer's columns - he's an interesting guy and always right on point.
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I have problems with anyone who says one thing and does another. Remember Read my lips?
I look vainly for a time when voters remember that the gov't that governs least governs best.
As for W; I voted for him because he was the least objectionable, but he is definitely not a conservative. He is another 'tax and spend' politician, plain and simple; he just did it with deficits instead of cash.
In my eye a true conservative limits gov't. (esp. federal), balances budgets and doesn't 'bailout' (aka handout) business while shoveling $ to the guys who bankrupted them. We believe in capitalism and personal responsibility. We don't need exit strategies, because we mind our own business. And when we are forced to act in self preservation we act decisively and completely without regard to the UN or the media. I suppose these tenets seem more libertarian now, but I have never thought of myself this way. Actually, I reject all the political label nonsense. There are no narrow definitions that can be applied, so I call myself an independent. I do not vote party lines and I do not accept professional politicians.
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