Obama Wants to Let Those Pesky Geezers Die

[Jamo]

Sorry for your loss.

I'm of the same mind. Armenians live a long damn time if left to their own devices...doesn't mean it's a good long damn time.

I made a pact with a Turkish fellow to pull the plug, and I have promised to do the same for him. Course, everytime one of us sneezes, the other one's ready to hurry things along.

Gotta tell ya, though...I'm thinking Obama's not really wrong in his observation, and a tip of the hat to him for having the guts to say it. That being said, the last organization I want administering an HMO is the federal government.

[Ron61]

Ray,

Sorry to hear of your loss. Back in 1986 I went in and paid all of my funeral expenses, plus had the head stone set. I then had powers of attorney made out so they could not keep me plugged into a machine and stated that no extraordinary measures were to be used to keep me alive. I don't use any Govt. money for me medical bills as I pay them from my savings. So I don't have any guilty feelings about living off other people work. I have always paid my own way since I was old enough to work and will do so until the time comes to end it.

Ron

[cobra de capell]

Originally Posted by Ron61

Ray,

Sorry to hear of your loss. Back in 1986 I went in and paid all of my funeral expenses, plus had the head stone set. I then had powers of attorney made out so they could not keep me plugged into a machine and stated that no extraordinary measures were to be used to keep me alive. I don't use any Govt. money for me medical bills as I pay them from my savings. So I don't have any guilty feelings about living off other people work. I have always paid my own way since I was old enough to work and will do so until the time comes to end it.

Ron

Well, you do pay into Medicare so when that time comes you should take advantage of Medicare.

I'll admit, I'm a little confused as to being buried or cremation. I'm thinking cremation - it's quick and probably painless. Buried - down the road, the worms get you - slowly. Plus, I've watch way too much TV about people being buried alive.

[cobra de capell]

I'm also surprised at what Obama is saying, admitting, about his plan to save money - that's really not a creative idea, it's always been available to doctors - but now Obama wants to pull the plug by cutting off services through the government insurance program.

The interesting thing is that poor people will be impacted 100% with people with a few dollars ready to pay for the 'extra care' or procedure - those with real money - the sky's the limit as it's always been and always will be.

If you think about it, it’s really assisted suicide via a government program. Therefore, if the government can do it, why not allow each one of us the legal right to off ourselves with a doctors assistance? Life is America is getting really strange.

[Cobrabill]

[quote=Jamo;I made a pact with a Turkish fellow ..../QUOTE]


Now THAT is interesting.

[VRM]

I want to be sent off in a Viking longboat to bagpipe and kazoo music (I'm a North European mutt) while everybody enjoys a big lobster clambake and sushi bar with all the fixins. I figure I've eaten enough of those sea-dwelling morsels that I should probably return the favour.

And the partiers have to finish off all the beer in the beer fridge. In fact - I better go get one now so I don't miss out cause it seems like everybody else is kicking the bucket.

Steve

[Jamo]

[quote=Cobrabill;962127]

Originally Posted by Jamo;I made a pact with a Turkish fellow ..../QUOTE

Now THAT is interesting.

Turk is a rather interesting fellow.

[Wayne Maybury]

Back to the topic.

Either side of this arguement can be taken to the extreme. The plug could be pulled far too early on someone that has a real chance to recover OR someone can be kept alive long after they should have been allowed to pass away. The problem is trying to figure out just where in between, is right. There is probably no easy answer as in many cases it is a personal or family decision. Certainly money should not enter into the decision unless it is a case of a family going broke trying to keep an old geezer alive.

Wayne

[cobra de capell]

Originally Posted by Wayne Maybury

Back to the topic.

Either side of this arguement can be taken to the extreme. The plug could be pulled far too early on someone that has a real chance to recover OR someone can be kept alive long after they should have been allowed to pass away. The problem is trying to figure out just where in between, is right. There is probably no easy answer as in many cases it is a personal or family decision. Certainly money should not enter into the decision unless it is a case of a family going broke trying to keep an old geezer alive.

Wayne

On the other hand, the actual topic is that the government in America proposes to step in to make that decision by basically withdrawing services in favor of a painkiller - just allow the person to die as they will die anyway - the government - not the patient or the family.