What is it with people and drugs?

[blykins]

Anyone that had a full head of hair and a beard that looked like that, was definitely on something.

The deal is this...people can't handle the stress of being famous. They have the world at their fingertips, yet they lack something very important. So they try to escape through drugs and alcohol.

[Buzz]

Brent, we've all heard the rich and famous whining about how hard it is to be loaded with money and adored by thousands as an excuse for drug abuse and other bad habits. I don't want to buy it, though. What about the non-celebrity types like the ones we all grew up with? They want to be excused because of how tough it is not to be rich and famous.

In spite of all the mainstream negative publicity about drugs, it seems like a large percentage of people wink and nod "Yeah yeah it's bad for you" but in reality acknowledge it as the thing to do. Sort of like knowing that having oral sex with your wife or girlfriend is against some archaic sodomy laws still on the books, but you know damn well you'll be doing it anyway.

It's simple, drugs make you feel good, and weak minded folks that don't have personal rules and convictions get involved.
To me, it's something that you just decide within yourself...will I or won't I?
It's like eating too much or eating just enough...all a personal choice.

Bill, I think you have it at least partially nailed. People find that it feels good for some reason to be dizzy and confused (or they derive pleasure from participating in something that's "in") and they don't have the will to set limits. The eating analogy is a very good one, although I know people with the discipline to train and stay in great shape yet they still abuse drugs. Michael Phelps comes to mind as an example.

[Dan40]

Buzz,
I don't agree with you much, but do here. Some people are much more susceptible to habit and/or addition than others. Drugs provide the 'escape' that some "require" in their lives. Pot might not be 'addictive' but that escape is addictive for some people. And all the other drugs get progressively worse.
I tried pot, it gave me vertigo and made me upchuck. My logical mind said, "How many laws should we break and how much money should we spend to get vertigo and throw up?"
Solved that drug problem.

[Buzz]

Originally Posted by Dan40

Buzz,
I don't agree with you much, but do here. Some people are much more susceptible to habit and/or addition than others. Drugs provide the 'escape' that some "require" in their lives. Pot might not be 'addictive' but that escape is addictive for some people. And all the other drugs get progressively worse.

Hey - even night and day have some common ground around sunrise and sundown Dan!

I feel strongly about the psychological addiction vs. the chemical addiction to some of the milder drugs like pot and tobacco. I quit cigarettes cold turkey at age 38 after smoking steadily starting in my early teens. I finished my last pack and never looked back. Afterwards, I experienced no shakes, withdrawal or mood swings. The hardest part was deciding what to do with my free hand when I was out talking and social drinking. The cigarette was such an ingrained part of my person that for a while, I had to keep my hand in my pocket for lack of anything better to do with it once it no longer held and flicked and gestured with a cigarette.
With alcohol it's very similar. I like beer and wines and I have a particular love for champagne. I like the taste of my preferred brands and have no desire to drink for the sake of getting drunk. If I am out and there is nothing that I like to drink, I won't endure beer or wine that doesn't taste good and I will be quite content to drink water. If someone ever invented a non-alcoholic beer that actually tasted good, that would work for me.

I tried pot, it gave me vertigo and made me upchuck. My logical mind said, "How many laws should we break and how much money should we spend to get vertigo and throw up?"
Solved that drug problem.

I hope that didn't happen at a party in front of the big boobed blonde you'd been dying to ask out for a date! Talk about crash and burn!

That logical mind or the will to use it is what many seem to lack when it comes to drugs.

[Dan40]

Originally Posted by Buzz

Hey - even night and day have some common ground around sunrise and sundown Dan!

I feel strongly about the psychological addiction vs. the chemical addiction to some of the milder drugs like pot and tobacco. I quit cigarettes cold turkey at age 38 after smoking steadily starting in my early teens. I finished my last pack and never looked back. Afterwards, I experienced no shakes, withdrawal or mood swings. The hardest part was deciding what to do with my free hand when I was out talking and social drinking. The cigarette was such an ingrained part of my person that for a while, I had to keep my hand in my pocket for lack of anything better to do with it once it no longer held and flicked and gestured with a cigarette.
With alcohol it's very similar. I like beer and wines and I have a particular love for champagne. I like the taste of my preferred brands and have no desire to drink for the sake of getting drunk. If I am out and there is nothing that I like to drink, I won't endure beer or wine that doesn't taste good and I will be quite content to drink water. If someone ever invented a non-alcoholic beer that actually tasted good, that would work for me.



I hope that didn't happen at a party in front of the big boobed blonde you'd been dying to ask out for a date! Talk about crash and burn!

That logical mind or the will to use it is what many seem to lack when it comes to drugs.

RIGHT down her cleavage!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!(.)(.)
NOT my ACE move!

[Jamo]

Originally Posted by blykins

Anyone that had a full head of hair and a beard that looked like that, was definitely on something.

Asscuse me? I have a full head of hair and a beard like that (albeit with a bit of grey) and I ain't on sh!t. Just naturally gifted.

I have to admit, I laughed my ass off when I read about Mays in the paper Sunday morning. Wife had to pound on the bathroom door to find out if I was ok. Of course he was on coke!

Buzz...pretty sure many of us had some similar stories. I know I do.

But we made it...some don't.

[blykins]

Originally Posted by Jamo

(albeit with a bit of grey)

That's what I'm talking about.....this man was middle aged and looked like he had a black piece of carpet wrapped around his head.

[Jamo]

Originally Posted by blykins

That's what I'm talking about.....this man was middle aged and looked like he had a black piece of carpet wrapped around his head.

I'm reminded of Bony...used to dye his beard and hair, except that when he sweated, the beard would leach the dye and it would run down his shirt.

[392cobra]

Originally Posted by Jamo

Asscuse me? I have a full head of hair and a beard like that (albeit with a bit of grey) and I ain't on sh!t. Just naturally gifted.

That's right.Billy would never have been able to pull off the Plumber's Crack look.

[Bobcat]

I believe Dan40 made the comment that pot may not be addictive ... and I agree with that , however , I also feel it is a gateway drug for the hard stuff . A good friend`s son started off on pot and then decided he wanted more and stepped up to crack . I watched that boy go from a fun , productive young man of 180 lbs to a non functional scarecrow of about 130 lbs . He chased me down one night ( took him 5 miles to catch me ) just to "borrow " $10 for "gas" . He also almost destroyed his parents and wiped out what savings they had trying to help him .
I have ZERO tolerance for drugs and anyone who uses them !
Yes , I agree that there are some people who are predisposed to abuse drugs/alcohol ... but drugs have been proven time and again to be so destructive , why even try them ?.... and I grew up in the 60`s drug culture , and never had anything stronger than alcohol ... and , yes , I know that is also a "drug " . Today , I drink very little , other than a glass of wine or a COLD beer after cutting the yard . I can`t stand the pain the next morning of the good time I think I had .

[Bobcat]

I believe Dan40 made the comment that pot may not be addictive ... and I agree with that , however , I also feel it is a gateway drug for the hard stuff . A good friend`s son started off on pot and then decided he wanted more and stepped up to crack . I watched that boy go from a fun , productive young man of 180 lbs to a non functional scarecrow of about 130 lbs . He chased me down one night ( took him 5 miles to catch me ) just to "borrow " $10 for "gas" . He also almost destroyed his parents and wiped out what savings they had trying to help him .
I have ZERO tolerance for drugs and anyone who uses them !
Yes , I agree that there are some people who are predisposed to abuse drugs/alcohol ... but drugs have been proven time and again to be so destructive , why even try them ?.... and I grew up in the 60`s drug culture , and never had anything stronger than alcohol ... and , yes , I know that is also a "drug " . Today , I drink very little , other than a glass of wine or a COLD beer after cutting the yard . I can`t stand the pain the next morning of the good time I think I had .