Obamacare Meltdown

Bartruff1 · #1 (**permalink**) 08-12-2009, 03:11 PM

that will increase coverage and reduce costs and there MAY be a gov option. People making more than 250k will pay any additional costs. Baboons screaming at each other from spitting distance don't effect legislation. The real players including AARP, Big Pharma, AMA... etc.. are on board. He has the votes, the Republics are irrelevant . The Blue Dogs are likely doing some careful polling right now and will get what they can live with. Given that 96% of seats are safe, I bet Emanual can tell you the vote right now. If you have been surfing talk radio and cable news (or even CSpan) over the last few years you would be used to hearing this kind of nonsense. Obama 3....Opponents 0.. bottom of the 3rd..

Dan40 · #2 (**permalink**) 08-12-2009, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Bartruff1

that will increase coverage and reduce costs and there MAY be a gov option. People making more than 250k will pay any additional costs. Baboons screaming at each other from spitting distance don't effect legislation. The real players including AARP, Big Pharma etc.. are on board. He has the votes, the Republics are irrelevant . The Blue Dogs are likely doing some careful polling right now and will get what they can live with. Given that 96% of seats are safe, I bet Emanual can tell you the vote right now. If you have been surfing talk radio and cable news (or even CSpan) over the last few years you would be used to hearing this kind of nonsense. Obama 3....Opponents 0.. bottom of the 3rd..

In 'obummer the idiot's' phony town haul of crap, he said that AARP was on board and he said that the southern Congressperson Isakson wrote the so called death panel part of the bill.

TODAY, AARP said, "We do not support any health care bill now in the House or the Senate."
Isakson said that he never wrote a single word of the bill and had no input at all. obummer retracted his statement and apologized.

And the Pharm Assoc. said as long as they get the DEAL they negotiated with obummer, they are behind his health care bill, but if that deal changes, they are NOT on board. In other words, they proposed a number to buy their support and obummer wrote them an IOU.
This from the guy that wants to correct rumors and MISINFORMATION.

As I have been saying, this administration is completely transparent in their total and absolute corruption.

The Nation is speaking but the anti-American Islamist doesn't hear them.

Bartruff1 · #3 (**permalink**) 08-12-2009, 05:16 PM

AARP will support the plan...Obama has won every fight... every battle ....every skirmish....from TARP to the Budget...From the Court to General Motors....Stimulus to Cash for Clunkers...he may even have stopped settlement construction in the West Bank....every fricking pissing match....

Dan40 · #4 (**permalink**) 08-12-2009, 07:15 PM

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AARP will support the plan...Obama has won every fight... every battle ....every skirmish....from TARP to the Budget...From the Court to General Motors....Stimulus to Cash for Clunkers...he may even have stopped settlement construction in the West Bank....every fricking pissing match....

And we WON every single engagement in Vietnam. The enemy dead numbered in the millions,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,BUT.

If he got every one of his insane and anti-American programs passed, he'd still lose, WE ALL WOULD!

Bartruff1 · #5 (**permalink**) 08-12-2009, 09:02 PM

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And we WON every single engagement in Vietnam. The enemy dead numbered in the millions,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,BUT.

If he got every one of his insane and anti-American programs passed, he'd still lose, WE ALL WOULD!

...keep the faith, I see Rick Santorum is headed to Iowa to save America...the real America...perhaps a dream ticket Palin/Santorum...

Dan40 · #6 (**permalink**) 08-13-2009, 08:35 AM

And your boy got 52.9 % of the vote against a placeholder. EVERYBODY, including the Republicans knew that McCain would not and could not win against anyone. A Democrat was in for sure. And he was the candidate because Hillary is shrill and unlikeable. Yet the obummer won a majority by 2.9 points. An easily and already eroded, "mandate."
His election proves only that we have too many lazy, and ignorant people looking for a free ride on productive peoples money.
It WILL Stop!

map · #7 (**permalink**) 08-13-2009, 08:51 AM

The Dems are on Defense now there spending Millions on commercial time because the sleeping giant finally woke up and read the bill Chairman Obummer will be going Critical Mass soon...

Bartruff1 · #8 (**permalink**) 08-13-2009, 12:25 PM

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And your boy got 52.9 % of the vote against a placeholder. EVERYBODY, including the Republicans knew that McCain would not and could not win against anyone. A Democrat was in for sure. And he was the candidate because Hillary is shrill and unlikeable. Yet the obummer won a majority by 2.9 points. An easily and already eroded, "mandate."
His election proves only that we have too many lazy, and ignorant people looking for a free ride on productive peoples money.
It WILL Stop!

The Republican't ran the only candidate that could possibly have won and the Democrats ran the only candidate that could possibly have lost....and a young black man with no experience and a funny name won ....and the electoral vote was never close. It was a landslide..... a historical and transformational election.... and elections have consequences ...and we will likely move toward a secular northern european government....for the next 20 years...

Dan40 · #9 (**permalink**) 08-13-2009, 11:53 AM

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AARP will support the plan...Obama has won every fight... every battle ....every skirmish....from TARP to the Budget...From the Court to General Motors....Stimulus to Cash for Clunkers...he may even have stopped settlement construction in the West Bank....every fricking pissing match....

And now he is losing one and disintegrating right before our eyes. Posted above is the Presidential approval rating and the obummer is now at a MINUS 8, after just 8 months in office.
Liberals love to cite Bush. Try this Gallup pool.
From election in 2000, Bush's approval was above 50% until MAY 2004. It hit 50% then went back up until MAY 2005 when, FOR the first time his approval rate fell below 50% and his disapproval went above it. 5 years and 5 months to fall to where obummer has fallen in 7 MONTHS. And HISTORY, [one of liberals most hated FACTS] is that recovery for a President is all but non-existent. Once they are in the toilet, they're flushed!

Bartruff1 · #10 (**permalink**) 08-13-2009, 12:17 PM

and town halls don't matter. Every pol I know, knows that the only people that go to town halls are mad....mostly out of ignorance that generates fear....this legislation will be written by the lobbyists like all bills are and every single word will be carefully parsed and debated by reasonable, intelligent people who know the stakes and have skin in the game. Obama will get his bill, bet on it. And in the next election and subsequent elections we will see what the voters think and I suspect there will be very little change in the Congress.. Faux News and Talk Radio have reduced the Grand Old Party to a Southern Regional Rural Party full of Jesus Freaks, Gun Nuts and Bigots that has no influence over events. What ever happened to Cheney ? Someone(s) must have told him to STFU ??