Obamacare Meltdown

[Excaliber]

They've been talking about tort reform for years, long before the current crisis. For some reason it keeps getting swept under the table...

[Dan40]

Originally Posted by Excaliber

They've been talking about tort reform for years, long before the current crisis. For some reason it keeps getting swept under the table...

What CRISIS?
crisis Noun
pl -ses
1. a crucial stage or turning point in the course of anything( See Obama's career)

2. a time of extreme trouble or danger

Crisis is a liberal FEAR word that has no place in the current situation.

Health care COSTS needs some adjustments. American health care TREATMENT is the best in the world. All statements to the contrary are LIES! And even if they were true, American health care TREATMENT is still fine.
Insurance Companies are obummers new villain of the moment. Insurance company premiums AND profits are and have been controlled by Government regulation for years.

If NO bill is passed this year or next or the next, our health care system will carry on still needing some adjustments. But it still will NOT be in CRISIS.
It is a MEDIUM HIGH priority problem to be fixed as FUNDS are available.
Bill and Hillary said CRISIS 16 years ago. Nothing got fixed and we still have the finest care available and still no crisis. The difference is they did not bet their careers on health care.

The health care machine needs plugs and the timing set. It does not need to go to the crusher like a clunker in favor of a new model, YET TO BE, designed by a committee that knows NOTHING about designing an efficient machine.

[cobra de capell]

The bottomline....

In the 48 hours of June 15-16, President Obama lost the health-care debate. First, a letter from the Congressional Budget Office to Sen. Edward Kennedy reported that his health committee’s reform bill would add $1 trillion in debt over the next decade. Then the CBO reported that the other Senate bill, being written by the Finance Committee, would add $1.6 trillion. The central contradiction of Obamacare was fatally exposed: From his first address to Congress, Obama insisted on the dire need for restructuring the health-care system because out-of-control costs were bankrupting the Treasury and wrecking the U.S. economy — yet the Democrats’ plans would make the problem worse.

[cobra bill]

Originally Posted by cobra de capell

The bottomline....

In the 48 hours of June 15-16, President Obama lost the health-care debate. First, a letter from the Congressional Budget Office to Sen. Edward Kennedy reported that his health committee’s reform bill would add $1 trillion in debt over the next decade. Then the CBO reported that the other Senate bill, being written by the Finance Committee, would add $1.6 trillion. The central contradiction of Obamacare was fatally exposed: From his first address to Congress, Obama insisted on the dire need for restructuring the health-care system because out-of-control costs were bankrupting the Treasury and wrecking the U.S. economy — yet the Democrats’ plans would make the problem worse.

The debates not lost, the democrats are stupid in many ways, they don't have a clue how to unite, Bush got every single thing he asked for because the Republicans do know how to unite, even if they know they are wrong. We still have the numbers on our side, the fringe that is shouting down the debate at these town hall meetings are the 35%ers, the dumber then Joe the plumbers if you will, it won't take long after the recess is over for these idiot democrats to finally decide that there's no point in even trying for by-partisan bill, they need to just shove that increasingly meaningless bigoted party of whack jobs aside and just get the job done. I know you guys are crying this is not your America, well you lost the election we own it and it's our turn to fix what you broke, and for all you poor white folks out there that can't stand the black man in the Whitehouse, a women as secretary of state and god forbid a Hispanic on the supreme court. You can't have a melting pot without the gravy getting darker! So get used to it, it's a new America

[392cobra]

Originally Posted by cobra bill

and for all you poor white folks out there that can't stand the black man in the Whitehouse, a women as secretary of state and god forbid a Hispanic on the supreme court. You can't have a melting pot without the gravy getting darker! So get used to it, it's a new America

You are way beyond just having a severe ADHD problem.

[Dan40]

Originally Posted by cobra bill

The debates not lost, the democrats are stupid in many ways, they don't have a clue how to unite, Bush got every single thing he asked for because the Republicans do know how to unite, even if they know they are wrong. We still have the numbers on our side, the fringe that is shouting down the debate at these town hall meetings are the 35%ers, the dumber then Joe the plumbers if you will, it won't take long after the recess is over for these idiot democrats to finally decide that there's no point in even trying for by-partisan bill, they need to just shove that increasingly meaningless bigoted party of whack jobs aside and just get the job done. I know you guys are crying this is not your America, well you lost the election we own it and it's our turn to fix what you broke, and for all you poor white folks out there that can't stand the black man in the Whitehouse, a women as secretary of state and god forbid a Hispanic on the supreme court. You can't have a melting pot without the gravy getting darker! So get used to it, it's a new America

"bigoted party of whack jobs aside and just get the job done. I know you guys are crying this is not your America, well you lost the election we own it and it's our turn to fix what you broke, and for all you poor white folks out there that can't stand the black man in the Whitehouse, a women as secretary of state and god forbid a Hispanic on the supreme court. You can't have a melting pot without the gravy getting darker! So get used to it, it's a new America"

So EXPOSING yourself as a TOTAL RACIST will make us come over to your cause?

IS lying a way to get a good bill passed? Because your pres lied his ass off in Montana today. He told a story about a man came down with a serious health condition and just as treatment was about to start, his insurance canceled him because he had gall stones he never told them about YEARS AGO! And without treatment the man died! That IS AN OUTRIGHT INTENTIONAL LIE. Partly by omission and partly by commission. obummer IS a lawyer, he knows that an insurance company cannot do this. What happened is the man applied for an insurance policy LESS than 2 years before he developed his serious condition. In his application he failed to disclose that he had already been diagnosed with gall stones and needed an operation FOR THAT. He was waiting for 2 years to pass so he could DEFRAUD the insurance company. See health policies give the insurance companies 2 years to find pre-existing conditions. But it costs them money to do a total medical research on every applicant. So they very often do not check medical records unless a claim is made. Well a claim was made and they checked his medical history and found he lied on his application. Had he told the truth in the first place, the ins, co. most likely would have attached a rider to his policy not covering a gall bladder operation for 5 or 10 years. But otherwise his policy would have been IN FORCE. But his intention was to hold out the 2 years and make them pay for the gall bladder. Nature screwed him and HE SCREWED HIM. obummer KNOWS that is how insurance works and also knows that the insurance has to and did return every cent of premiums he paid. Instead he twists the story to make an insurance company the bad guy and the criminally fraudulent man the victim.

If a bill has to be sold with LIES, it cannot be a good bill.
But unlikely you will be able to see that through racist eyes.

[elmariachi]

Originally Posted by Dan40

If NO bill is passed this year or next or the next, our health care system will carry on still needing some adjustments. But it still will NOT be in CRISIS.

Correct. But 47 million Americans, many of whom refuse to carry their own weight in our society, continue to go without coverage. Of course, they can still walk into any emergency room in America and be treated, but they can't get a pill for every little pain and they just don't want to be bothered with those dang ER bills piling up. So until all of the poor, lazy, unfortunate or indigent people in this country are on a government-run plan, the Obama administration will continue manufacturing the CRISIS.

[cobra de capell]

They need to try again......

Open wide everyone......incoming....

[Gordon Claunch]

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