What a SURPRISE!

[elmariachi]

Originally Posted by Excaliber

If you want nicer streets, better parks, a more secure neighborhood you don't call that "socialism", you call it paying taxes.

Bad comparison, in my opinion. Our Federal government was charged with building the national infrastructure when we announced our independence from Great Britain. The preamble of the US Constitution goes only as far as saying we must "promote the General Welfare." The words "finance," "mandate," "administer," and "guarantee" were all common in the English language in 1776, yet they specifically did not choose any of those words in front of "Welfare" did they? It does not say government may mandate parks be built or healthcare may be administered or government-run. Any time the government of the state engages in the economic administration of otherwise free-market activities (INSURANCE or the administration/financing thereof via taxes), its an act of socialism. Taken a bit further, as they work to erode the position of the capitalistic position of the educated, wealthy and successful (the bourgeoisie), by asking them to concede to benefit the less-fortunate, then you have arrived at efforts of Marxism.

Sidenote>> I have not yet ever heard anyone at a town hall get up and shout "NO MORE PARKS AND INTERSTATES."

Originally Posted by Excaliber

BS it will drive insurers out of the market, they will THRIVE with those willing and able to pay for their better services than a basic public plan would offer.

Who are these people who are "WILLING" to pay more tomorrow for what they are paying less for today? Oh, are those the ones screaming in joy at the town halls? For 90% of privately employed Americans, once they lose their employer subsidized plans (or the employer subsidy portion), the cost of maintaining their current coverage will skyrocket ten-fold. Again, the goverment's effort or willingness to erode the wealthy and successful to assist the laboring, less fortunate class is????.....Marxism.

From Obama's first memoir he described student life at Occidental College in 1979: “To avoid being mistaken for a sellout, I chose my friends carefully. The more politically active black students. The foreign students. The Chicanos. The Marxist professors and structural feminists.”

FYI, Extremism is defined as "Owning a Cobra and then putting a Chevy engine in it."