Obama Speaks, Pelosi Winces

[Ronbo]

Well I listened to it, back-pedaling and more lies.

First time I've ever heard "boos" like that, ever.

Instead of "taxing the millionairs" it will now be self funded. (lie)

The persons who are supposidly in need of this "public offering" will be exempt. (so this will change what?) Small businesses (you know, the ones that currently don't offer ins.) will also be exempt. (again, so this changes what?)

Require pre-existing conditions? Well, I don't know about every state but in Florida employer-supplied insurance already has to have this, as well as since it's a "group" plan you can't be dropped. COBRA is rarely ever accepted by employees cause they get a look at how much this costs the employer and of course don't pay it (unless they have something pre-existing).

Not to mention when this "public offering" lights off every high-risk, pre-existing person in this country will jump on it. (Can you say in the red?)

Never heard of an "optional" government plan, maybe they could do this with Medicare and Social Security? (like that'll happen)

This fellow is either a bold face lier (he knows this can't work), or he reallly belives this B.S.

BTW what was those papers the Republicans kept waiving around during the speech???

[Don]

Tort Reform, mentioned by some one , do not recall who, on the radio this morning, in Washington DC there are more lawyers than doctors

[bomelia]

CDC... nice. So true. Actually 5 words were true. "You Lie" from Joe Wilson, and "My fellow Americans" from Obama. From there on, it was all lies lies lies.

Mike

[Ronbo]

Oh, and how the Republicans should have handled it?

Everyone bring in a bunch of fake noses, first lie put the big one on, next lie put on the next bigger one, and so on. (the press would have ate this up)

Instead they sat there looking like a bunch of pissed off grumps and acting like idiots. (at least they didn't fold their arms)

Oh well, girdlocked government is at least better that the "forward momentum" we've been getting...

[bdeutsch]

Unquestionably, President Obama is an accomplished orator and it was hard on the surface to fundamentally argue with things he said or championed yesterday evening.

Having said this though, when you start peeling back some of the layers of the various topics last night and in particular how all of this would be paid for, the words started ringing a bit hollow.

Unless the government somehow is able to freeze rates, any increased costs incurred by insurers, will simply be passed on. How does that not equate to same/less care for equal money at either a corporate or individual level? One does not have to be an economist to understand any of this.