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Good evening, my name is John DeRocker and the son of the former owner of "Thunderbolt Enterprises" John Ysker in Blaine, MN.

My father was in the business for many years of building Cobra Replica's and Pantera's for customers that wanted "Well built" and "Fun" kit cars. I grew up building these cars with my father but then entered the military in the late 80's and we slowly drifted apart over the years. A few years ago, my father passed, but I never lost the hopes of building myself a "King Cobra".

I remember my father talking about the significant differences between a Cobra & King Cobra being that the later had much more room in it. I always wanted to build one with him for myself, but never got the chance to do so.

With that said, one of the things that always stuck with me was making sure that where I bought the kit from, was well built, the tolerances were perfect and the safety was built into it. I do not remember where my father was purchasing his bodies and accessories from, but I believe it was from out west. He built all the chassis's in-house and only bought the body and extra's to fit his chassis. He used "Torsion Bar" suspensions instead of "Coil-Over" as it road much tighter and the adjust-ability was much better. He also used solid half shafts for the torque and Dana Spicer rear ends to handle the power. I'm pretty sure I will not get exactly what he was building as many of the things he did was kept in-house.

However, now I'm going to have to purchase it from ground up as he has passed like I stated, so I'm starting fresh.

My question is pretty simple:
- What corporation do you guys/gals recommend when buying a King Cobra?

I would welcome any feedback as I have been out of this for almost 3 decades now and I'm sure things have changed dramatically.

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Old 04-10-2014, 03:47 PM
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Are you referring to the Cooper Monaco? If so no one makes them in a kit
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Old 04-10-2014, 03:50 PM
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Not sure on the term "King Cobra" could be the Twin Paxton Cobra's or the Cooper chassis car, but for just a bigger Cobra look at WEST COAST COBRA.
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I'm actually not sure. I just remember my father using the term "King Cobra". The only thing I remember was it was much larger inside the cockpit area than a traditional kit Cobra. At 6'2", a smaller version is just too small to have fun in.

Any help would be great or a show that you guys know of would also be helpful. I'm pretty much willing to go where ever to start the education process. I would rather take my timer to pick the right one, than buy it just because.

The project could start in a month or 6 months, I just want it to be the right choice the 1st time if possible.
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I tried calling West Coast Cobra but the phone number listed does not work. Are they still in business?
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Also, to answer your question on the term "King Cobra".

I'm actually not sure. I just remember my father using the term "King Cobra". The only thing I remember was it was much larger inside the cockpit area than a traditional kit Cobra. At 6'2", a smaller version is just too small to have fun in.

Any help would be great or a show that you guys know of would also be helpful. I'm pretty much willing to go where ever to start the education process. I would rather take my timer to pick the right one, than buy it just because.

The project could start in a month or 6 months, I just want it to be the right choice the 1st time if possible.
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Old 04-10-2014, 06:14 PM
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You need to give the West Coast owners community a visit. Join and drop us a line.
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The King Cobra was a mid engine Cooper race car. Not very street wise and I don't know of any reproduction currently out there.
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Old 04-10-2014, 10:17 PM
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West Coast Cobra, where is Vern? Look up West Coast Dreams.
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He's not talking about the King Cobra race car, he's talking about an extended wheelbase replica made in the 80s and 90s. They haven't been around for years.
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Old 04-10-2014, 10:55 PM
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Also the Maine-ly Classic was longer in the doors, I think some others did the same.
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Old 04-11-2014, 06:58 AM
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My friend Mat Twiehaus is 6'3" and has a Lone Star Cobra and he fits quite nicely. Lone does some nice things that make a taller or larger person more comfortable without sacraficing the looks or performance of a Cobra. Talk to Brian at Lone Star.

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Old 04-11-2014, 07:22 AM
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Awesome, you guys ROCK !!
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Jeff Classic builds beautiful Cobra style cars on Corvette C4 chasis. They are very roomy and of course handle and brake very well. Look him up over on the AZ Cobras site. I'd bet he'd be willing to provide a larger body without a chassis, if you wanted. He's a really knowlegable guy who has been involved in high performance automotive for decades. You could also take a trip to Phoenix to take a look at his personal car. If you see it just sitting by itself, nothing different sould strike you, except for what a beautiful car it is. If its sitting beside a 90 incher, you'd see that its noticably larger.
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Going waaaaayyy back, Allied Industries used to offer a "King Cobra" kit. Maybe Pops was talking about this. But you'd have a devil of a time finding one now, I bet.

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Trip is scheduled to "Lone Star" in 3 weeks. We'll see what comes out of the trip. Thanks for all the help everyone. If it does not work out, I'm sure that there are planty more to go visit.
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I own a West Coast Cobra dubbed many times as the "King Cobra"the reasons are obvious, 6" longer and 4" wider, 9" Ford rear end single axle vs IRS. Dealing with Vern is an issue, for he is preoccupied with his Dreams lingerie website which he has tied with the Cobra Cars. I suggest that if you want to ameliorate your headaches, that you deal with one of his authorized dealers, specifically Perry Adams in the Syracuse NY area. Hell of a guy he will work with you hands down and he is trustworthy. I will PM you his contact info.
These cars are great, look at my pictures, I am very happy with the performance.
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