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09-16-2009, 06:55 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Excaliber
... dang, you would have to bring that up. Compromise, no square frame stuff and I won't mention BMW parts. 
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Ernie, the stock clutch master & slave in the ERAs are BMW (some of us upgraded to a larger Tilton, though). Let's only throw stones when we're sure we're not in the same glass house. 
Last edited by patrickt; 09-16-2009 at 06:57 PM..
Reason: typo
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09-16-2009, 06:59 PM
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Backdraft Racing Dealer
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Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: North Haven,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Backdraft Racing
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Quote:
Originally Posted by patrickt
Ernie, the stock clutch master & slave in the ERAs are BMW (some of us upgraded to a larger Tilton, though). Let's only throw stones when we're sure we're not in the same glass house. 
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Can't fault honesty. Seriously, we get the luxury of semi-annual BDR vs. SPF threads ... where's the KMS vs ERA thread?
I honestly would like to read it.
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09-16-2009, 06:57 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Excaliber
... dang, you would have to bring that up. Compromise, no square frame stuff and I won't mention BMW parts. 
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It's all a matter of how deep you look, that's the point. BTW I had the pleasure of meeting the OP and letting him drive one of our cars. There are certain aspects to what he is looking for that are not included in the post so most of what followed after the offer from a few SPF owners to show their cars had nothing to do with the question.
Physical size and target budget among them.
What would help Dave is a discussion of why you don't want a 700HP / 110 Octane burner for the street...
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09-16-2009, 07:01 PM
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CC Member
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Join Date: Dec 2006
Cobra Make, Engine: CSX 4000; Shelby aluminum FE with 58mm IDAs
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cashburn
What would help Dave is a discussion of why you don't want a 700HP / 110 Octane burner for the street...
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I think this is about the time that Ernie chimes in and talks about his two different engines.
My vote is definitely for a pump-gas FE--right there with you, Ernie. 
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09-16-2009, 10:29 PM
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Senior Club Cobra Member
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Cobra Make, Engine: KMP 539, a Ton of Aluminum
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Stentor
I think this is about the time that Ernie chimes in and talks about his two different engines.
My vote is definitely for a pump-gas FE--right there with you, Ernie. 
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Ernie? I always love your stories about the Hi-Rise intakes and heads. Try and find a good set around though.
Wow, this has been wildly entertaining.
About those 700 HP engines, nowadays getting 650-ish HP is reasonably easy (uh, with some money of course) using pump gas. Rokndad's beautiful CSX Cobra comes quickly to mind. There's a few folks here on CC with 650+/- pump gas engines. Now 700 HP? I don't know, but I would like to try a nice new SOHC engine. That might be able to do it on pump gas. No octane booster.
Patrick loves ERA's. I love Kirkhams, Rokndad loves his CSX. Everyone floats their boat differently. I have my reasons for choosing a Kirkham, but then, this a thread about SPF's and ERA's.
To me, it seems that the buyer of an SPF and ERA are different people. BDR too. All three seem to be made for different buyers. It just depends what the OP wants in a car, and what he likes about the outside.
Jay said budget and size, but then, the ERA might not fit budget part of the equation. Although I'm sure there a few here who would argue that the ERA, in fact, the Kirkham too (I can't remember his CC name, but he's young ER doctor), could be built on a budget. For size, we have big and/or tall people in ERA's, BDR's and SPF's.
For me, a lot of times, it boils down to customer service, but then BDR, ERA and SPF give you great customer service.
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09-16-2009, 06:59 PM
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Hear that! In fact BEEN THERE, freakin' nightmare (700 horse street machine).
ERA uses a Suzuki steering rack I think as well, but let's not look "to deep".
MY point about "originality" is it was nice to know that SOMEBODY still offered a truly remarkable accurate to detail replica, like Kirkham, like Shelby himself. I see that slipping away, all though I personally will never have one, it was nice to know they were out there.
Many of the older replicas are remarkable for the accuracy. Contemporary, Hi Tech, come to mind. Not all of them, just some where it was done really nicely to details. THAT is rare today. Computerworks Kirkham comes to mind, perhaps THE most accurate to original detail replica on the planet! Well done Sir!
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09-16-2009, 07:03 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Excaliber
ERA uses a Suzuki steering rack I think as well, but let's not look "to deep". 
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You're thinking "Subaru." And that's been upgraded for a while now.... 
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09-16-2009, 07:17 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2007
Cobra Make, Engine: # 757 ERA 427 SC , 482 Al. big block
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If I remember my conversation with Doug , the steering rack is from Flaming River .... my car is #757 .
Bob
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09-16-2009, 07:19 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bobcat
If I remember my conversation with Doug , the steering rack is from Flaming River .... my car is #757 .
Bob
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I think that's right. First it was Subaru, then Mustang II, then FR.
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09-16-2009, 11:30 PM
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Try to find a good set of High Risers?  Yeah, good luck with that! The tunnel port heads carry more visual impact though. Like the ERA Bill has for sale, now THATS a cool set of heads/intake!
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09-17-2009, 03:18 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: SPF #2899 Dart 440 stroker 771 hp w/nitrous
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Call me - 419.376.2585 Let's talk SPF! Michael
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09-17-2009, 03:27 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2001
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You have a private e-mail
lloyd you have mail Rick
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09-17-2009, 05:48 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Southern Connecticut,
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Cobra Make, Engine: SPF - 351W, 944 non-turbo
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Lloyd:
You have a PM.
Bob
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09-17-2009, 06:05 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Meriden,
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA 427 SC s/n 718, 428 FE
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Lloyd:
You have created a ruckus.
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09-17-2009, 06:31 PM
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Eh Eh, Lloyd stirred up a fun little hornets nest. 
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09-17-2009, 06:51 PM
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Lloyd, your name is not Lloyd... 
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09-17-2009, 10:04 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2007
Cobra Make, Engine: SPF 02345, Roush/Yates 358 Sprint Cup motor
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My name is Dave Lloyds and I now own a Cobra!
You guys are hilarious!
Well I bought a SPF today with a Roush/Yates Nascar Cup engine in it. I did this for a few reasons.
1.After speaking with the guys who built the engine at Roush/Yates I realized how cool and unique the engine is. It was custom built for the owner of a company that supplies pistons for their race program. You cant just call them and order this engine. They were super excited about it and said it would be fun, fast and reliable.
2. My friend owns and races one of the GT40s in the American Le Mans Series and swears by the Roush/Yates guys. He said his race engine was very reliable.
3. I spoke with Dennis Olthoff who knows the car and he said it was a good car.
4. I wanted a really fast car that can scare me and my friends.
5. Bragging rights (its fun telling people it has a Nascar engine in it).
6. No one I spoke with had anything bad to say about SPF.
7. It sounds mean and nasty.
8. If I'm going to be irresponsible and buy a totally impractical car, I might as well go all the way.
I hope it is fun and reliable. Only time will tell. I know it is a total crap shoot.
That being said, I really liked the BD cars (especially the "Heritage Edition" that jay built) and the ERAs as well.
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09-17-2009, 10:43 PM
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09-18-2009, 05:42 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: SPF 02345, Roush/Yates 358 Sprint Cup motor
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Yup, that is the one. It came with both sets of wheels too.
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Originally Posted by RodKnock
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09-18-2009, 01:53 AM
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Join Date: May 2008
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Cobra Make, Engine: SPF_R_/BRG/FRBoss302/327CI/FordEFI/Under_Car_Exh/
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RodKnock -- interesting ad, notice the 2 different sets of wheels.
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