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karlt10 05-08-2003 12:26 PM

Mark Doherty (aka Superglass or Renegade427) killed
 
Street racing.

http://www.whotv.com/Global/story.as...0&nav=5ZinFhd9

http://www.theiowachannel.com/news/2189250/detail.html

FranticFrank 05-08-2003 02:21 PM

That was the worst possable thing that could have happened. I didn't know Mark, but had seen him pass by my shop at 320 Euclid a few times. You couldn't miss his cobra, it was very bright, metal flake green and could be heard from a ways away ifin he was mashin' it.
I was hoping to biuld/distribute a few cobras in Des Moines once I could get one of the major companies interested. I emailed Unique about doing just that, w/o a reply.
My condolances to all those who knew and loved Mark.
Frank Hull
Owner: Accurate Automotive
320 Euclid Av.
Des Moines, Iowa 50313

Excaliber 05-08-2003 06:08 PM

From the video of the news clip it sounds like the Trans AM "bumped" into the Cobra at speed. Causing the Cobra to loose control. Very very sad.

Tran Am owner has been questioned, but not yet arrested,which is still possible if the police conclude he caused the accident.

Ernie

Mongoose 05-09-2003 11:25 AM

I was out of town for a few days and just learned of Mark's death. Mark and I have been friends for many many years and I will miss him greatly. Death is always a horrible loss, but loosing one of the realy "good" ones is even harder.

I'll be attending services for Mark on Monday and will take along all of the good thoughts for those of you that can't make it.

SCOBRAC 05-11-2003 03:35 PM

Very sad.. two things we have learned from this tragic loss.. 1). Green Cobra's really are bad luck.. 2). Life is way too short to drive a small block.

meat 05-12-2003 09:22 AM

Stupid, stupid, stupid.

These are high horsepower, short wheelbase cars. If you do not know how to drive a car like this - and NO ONE does, then you should not race your car, 'show off' or generally act like a jackass on a public road. Ever. Period. Street racing is dangerous even in the very best of conditions and you could die.

Take a driving class. Learn how to drive your car in a controlled environment (a racetrack), and drive responsibly at all times. These cars have no side intrusion protection, minimal rollbars if at all, and they will absolutely kill you in a heartbeat. You're an idiot to think any different.

My condolences go out to the family of the dead Cobra driver. If it's any consolation, he will not be endangering any more innocent people by doing something so insanely stupid ever again.

Neal Jackson 05-12-2003 09:52 AM

C'mon Meat, say what you really mean - don't hold back.

:cool:

cscott67 05-12-2003 10:00 AM

Meat...
 
That was a little rough don't you think? We all make mistakes, and he paid dearly. Have you written any letters about the city bus drivers?! Scott

Excaliber 05-12-2003 10:07 AM

I think Mark was an expierenced driver all ready.

A driving class would not have made any difference in this case. It appears he was "bumped" and hit the soft shoulder of the road and rolled the car. You can't control an upside down car.

Ernie

CSX 4027 05-12-2003 10:11 AM

Racing
 
As I have said many time before...
Keep race cars on a race track!
You can go faster than you ever dreamed in a more controlled environment with all participants on the same page.
Sad story but it unfortunately will happen again.

CSX 4039 05-12-2003 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Excaliber


I think Mark was an expierenced driver all ready.

A driving class would not have made any difference in this case.... You can't control an upside down car.

Ernie

I agree that "a driving class would not have made any difference in this case".... You can't teach common sense.:(

meat 05-12-2003 12:16 PM

Re: Meat...
 
Quote:

Originally posted by cscott67 That was a little rough don't you think? We all make mistakes, and he paid dearly. Have you written any letters about the city bus drivers?! Scott
I'll write one the next time I see one street racing a Trans Am.

Your pal,
Meat.

Neal Jackson 05-12-2003 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by FranticFrank


That was the worst possable thing that could have happened. I didn't know Mark, but had seen him pass by my shop at 320 Euclid a few times. You couldn't miss his cobra, it was very bright, metal flake green and could be heard from a ways away ifin he was mashin' it.
I was hoping to biuld/distribute a few cobras in Des Moines once I could get one of the major companies interested. I emailed Unique about doing just that, w/o a reply.
My condolances to all those who knew and loved Mark.
Frank Hull
Owner: Accurate Automotive
320 Euclid Av.
Des Moines, Iowa 50313


Interesting comments from someone who apparently knew the car from "a ways away" if Mark was on the throttle ("mashin it").

Per email received today from Frantic Frank, he clarifys my statement in this post to mean that he did not say he "could recognize the car from aways away, just that it could be heard from aways away ifin he was mashing it ."

:cool:

sharpe 1 05-12-2003 01:38 PM

Street racing is not a good idea no matter how good of a driver you are. I feel sad for the family and their great loss.

casaleenie 05-12-2003 01:42 PM

Meat was a little rough but right on the mark.....
What part of the posting is incorrect????

cscott67 05-12-2003 03:05 PM

Meat...
 
They do race, ever been cut-off by one? They don't go that fast, but they'll still crush you and your vehicle like a tin can. Scott

converyknck 05-12-2003 03:23 PM

Re: Meat...
 
[quote]Originally posted by cscott67


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Neal Jackson 05-12-2003 03:27 PM

Re: Re: Meat...
 
Quote:

Originally posted by converyknck


:mad:
:mad: most of you people have no clue what you are talking about. I my self did not know and still dont know mark but a few people in my family knew him and buy the way there were no conflicks between the two drivers and the trans am did not hit or as you guys said it BUMPED the cobra i feel deeply sorry for marks family i really do but there is no reason for other familys to go thru the same kind of heartache

converyknck,

Thanks for the post. Are you the owner and/or driver of the Trans Am involved in the street race?

When I first read your post, I saw that your personal information below your name included "2002 Trans Am with Nit".

Now that information doesn't show.

:cool:

meat 05-12-2003 03:28 PM

Re: Meat...
 
Quote:

Originally posted by cscott67
They do race, ever been cut-off by one? They don't go that fast, but they'll still crush you and your vehicle like a tin can. Scott
Yes, I've been viciously attacked by a bus. It wasn't racing, nor did it crush me or my vehicle like a tin can. Nor did it roll repeatedly.

You're way off the mark.

Your pal,
Meat.

converyknck 05-12-2003 03:38 PM

Re: Re: Re: Meat...
 
[quote]Originally posted by Neal Jackson


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