$3.75 Million for 1967 Cobra on Ebay

[A-Snake]

Originally Posted by Cobra #3170

This is a very interesting point, as I recall the SC's were created to get rid of race car chassis that were not selling and most, if not all, were sold in 1966 or later. For example, George Harm bought the Richard Smith car sometime in early 1966 and it was registered as a 1966 car by California DMV. At that time (1965/1966/1967) if you had a 1965 Cobra it was a 289. The race cars may have been considered 1965's but I don't know if any were registered as 1965 cars with any dept of motor vehicles since they were race cars, but some may have been. I have wondered where the 1965 designation came from unless it was related to the 3000 serial number vs.
3100 for 1966 and 3200 and 3300 for later cars. There is an advantage to a 1965 designation in that I don't believe it requires a PCV valve so that may be part of it. I am sure somebody on this Forum has the correct information and will share it with everyone. (The **** filter made me use Richard)

Comp cars, SC’s and street cars were not completed and invoiced to dealers or sold in CSX order.
A quick example is CSX3003. It’s the 1st (production) comp car by CSX# but the 7th completed. CSX3004 was the 1st completed.

There were a number of CSX30xx cars completed, invoiced to dealers and sold in 1965. Some sold in the first half of 1965. There are also some CSX31xx street cars sold in 1965. Well ahead of some remaining SC’s

[Cobra #3170]

Originally Posted by A-Snake

Comp cars, SC’s and street cars were not completed and invoiced to dealers or sold in CSX order.
A quick example is CSX3003. It’s the 1st (production) comp car by CSX# but the 7th completed. CSX3004 was the 1st completed.

There were a number of CSX30xx cars completed, invoiced to dealers and sold in 1965. Some sold in the first half of 1965. There are also some CSX31xx street cars sold in 1965. Well ahead of some remaining SC’s

Several people in my home town bought Cobra's in the 1965 calendar year yet they were titled as 1966 cars. Apparently the serial number has nothing to do with title date on Cobra's, just the date the car was sold. The first car in our town was delivered in late June or early July and it was a 31xx car titled as a 1966. I understand about the serial numbers not being in order on the last two digits but what about the 2nd digit I.E. 0,1,2,3 did they mean anything other than the series?
Ford production cars were titled by model year and were sold as that model year even if sold in the prior year. Left over production was sold and titled by the year of design, a new 1966 Mustang sold in 1967 was titled as a 1966 Mustang at least in California, and a 1967 Mustang sold in 1966 was titled as a 1967 Mustang.

[A-Snake]

Originally Posted by Cobra #3170

Several people in my home town bought Cobra's in the 1965 calendar year yet they were titled as 1966 cars. Apparently the serial number has nothing to do with title date on Cobra's, just the date the car was sold. The first car in our town was delivered in late June or early July and it was a 31xx car titled as a 1966. I understand about the serial numbers not being in order on the last two digits but what about the 2nd digit I.E. 0,1,2,3 did they mean anything other than the series?

The second digit was a 'new' contract series and each series showed production changes. An example would be the elimination of an oil scoop with the 33xx series or the change to round taillights with the 32xx series.

The 31xx series had perhaps the most ‘changes’ within the series. The first eight used comp/SC bodies that remained at AC from the 30xx series. Then 16 or so had wide rear flairs, the next 34 had narrow rear flairs and than back to wide rear flares.

Lower CSX numbers not sold by late 1966 were ‘updated to 1967 models and they received ‘new’ MSOs specifying that they were 1967 models. The footbox tag was updated with 67- preceding the CSX number.

[Cobra #3170]

Originally Posted by A-Snake

The second digit was a 'new' contract series and each series showed production changes. An example would be the elimination of an oil scoop with the 33xx series or the change to round taillights with the 32xx series.

The 31xx series had perhaps the most ‘changes’ within the series. The first eight used comp/SC bodies that remained at AC from the 30xx series. Then 16 or so had wide rear flairs, the next 34 had narrow rear flairs and than back to wide rear flares.

Lower CSX numbers not sold by late 1966 were ‘updated to 1967 models and they received ‘new’ MSOs specifying that they were 1967 models. The footbox tag was updated with 67- preceding the CSX number.

Thanks for clearing that up, I wondered about how they managed to change title years legally. On body styles I ordered my 3100 series with extra wide flares because I wanted to use the relatively wide 15" dia. tires (Can Am I think) that could be purchased then, so there is effectively one more difference for 31xx. The SC's had a turned out lip but the inside dimensions of the actual fenders were not wide enough for 11.5" wide tires unless you jacked the car up and ruined the geometry.

[DMXF]

Originally Posted by A-Snake

There were a number of CSX30xx cars completed, invoiced to dealers and sold in 1965. Some sold in the first half of 1965. There are also some CSX31xx street cars sold in 1965. Well ahead of some remaining SC’s

The whole issue of model year designation with Cobras (at least 427 cars, anyway) seems to be a bit hokey, since they appear to have been categorized mainly to coincide with the model year then being sold by the big car manufacturers (ie; after about September or October buyers were expecting to see the next year's cars)......a marketing thing. I recall my car had 1965 on one of the documents, which was then x'd out and "1966" was typed in above it since it ended up arriving at the dealer in about September '65. As Jim has explained, the chassis number range is a far more meaningful parameter.