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Old 10-31-2008, 01:00 PM
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Mike,

Why go to all the trouble and spend $150 when you can accomplish the same thing with a single free phone call?

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Old 10-31-2008, 01:34 PM
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Jim,

I certainly can't speak for Mike or anyone else, but for myself I would like to reduce my emissions as much as possible while maintaining the maximum performance level. I realize that my 1988 302 with cam and Holley DP is not going to be anyway near my 2008 BMW with EFI with respect to emissions, but I would like to think that if the Cobra was properly tuned and driven 3K miles a year it would be close to the 12K miles a year BMW in total emissions.
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Old 10-31-2008, 03:37 PM
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I certainly can't speak for Mike or anyone else, but for myself I would like to reduce my emissions as much as possible while maintaining the maximum performance level. I realize that my 1988 302 with cam and Holley DP is not going to be anyway near my 2008 BMW with EFI with respect to emissions, but I would like to think that if the Cobra was properly tuned and driven 3K miles a year it would be close to the 12K miles a year BMW in total emissions.
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Steve,

While an out of tune engine will have more emissions than a properly tuned engine, tuning for the least emissions will not result in maximum performance. You can't have your cake AND eat it too.

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Old 11-02-2008, 06:22 PM
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John (Silverback),

If you like, I can set up dyno tunes for us in the spring. I want to get new tires and a tune before the CA trip in August. After the tune we can visit a local sports bar that has good food and very cold beer. I'll even buy.
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Old 11-03-2008, 08:41 AM
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Steve,

I was looking at the SEMA page a while back and they have all kinds of legislation they have passed and are working on passing. Washington is not on the list at this point from what I could see. Lots of good information. Heck, I would even take the California SB100 rule at this point. It is better then what we have.

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Steve,

I to would like to be as clean as possible and have taken steps to try and clean up the ole 460 as best as I can. The first time I had her dyno tuned made a big difference and it would almost pass at cruise at this point, but at idle, I bet a '08 Honda Accord would run quite nicely off whats comin out the pipe.

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Old 11-04-2008, 02:47 PM
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I'm of the same mindset. I would like the cleanest emissions at the highest power curve. My idle is the same as yours; sooty exhaust pipes that brings tears to my eyes.
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John (Silverback),

If you like, I can set up dyno tunes for us in the spring. I want to get new tires and a tune before the CA trip in August. After the tune we can visit a local sports bar that has good food and very cold beer. I'll even buy.

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Sounds like a good plan to me.
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Jake,

The California SB-100 bill is good except it also uses the 500 allotted numbers for SB-1578 which lets a car bought out of state be registered under it. Those 500 numbers are not very many and are normally gone by noon on the 2nd of January. I still like the Missouri law the best.

And while on the subject have any of you heard anything about the so called Green Rod add on whatever it is that SEMA and the Calif. CARB are supposed to be working on? I can't find any mention of it on either site. According to our Attorney General it is supposed to be an add on device that will make crate motors meet todays emissions. If that is a fact and it works it would be great for all states. I would like to hear more about this if there is any place to find out.

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Old 11-06-2008, 03:36 PM
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Ron,
Do you mean Green Rod as in environmentally friendly Hot/Street Rod or an aftermarket tube that is green in color that is attached to an engine? Either way I can't find any information related to emissions.

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Steve,

Call Dept of Licensing Emmissions Hotline in Bellevue and ask for the "kit car specialist". Yes they have one. The phone number is in the paper work they send at renewal time. They can take of your situation. I went through it. It took about 5 minutes on the phone to handle it. Most of the time was spent BS-ing with the guy. No repair expenses; no hassle. The biggest hassle is you have to call every time you renew.

If you can't find the number let me know and I will check back through my notes when I am in the office.

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Steve,

Gloria found the contact and phone number. Call Kerry Swayne with the Dept of Licensing. His phone number is 425-649-7101. He is the kit car special list for the DOL. He took care of the problem while I was on the phone.

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Gloria found the contact and phone number. Call Kerry Swayne with the Dept of Licensing. His phone number is 425-649-7101. He is the kit car special list for the DOL. He took care of the problem while I was on the phone.

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Kerry works for the Dept. of Ecology. They are authority in charge of emissions for the State of Wa.

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Old 11-16-2008, 07:16 PM
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Dale,
I called Kerry 2 weeks ago and he took care of the problem. The new tags have been installed so I'm good for 2 years. Thanks for the info.
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